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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

Jaberwok Sun 16-Oct-22 12:33:54

Yes, I remember hearing about that portrayal of Aberfan and the Queens response to this appalling tragedy. False tears, among other outrageous things??!! Wicked and completely untrue. Dreadful outfit, rather not watch TV at all than subscribe to Netflix.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-22 12:40:39

Old woman !

Sarah74 Sun 16-Oct-22 13:18:32

Jaberwok

Yes, I remember hearing about that portrayal of Aberfan and the Queens response to this appalling tragedy. False tears, among other outrageous things??!! Wicked and completely untrue. Dreadful outfit, rather not watch TV at all than subscribe to Netflix.

But it’s a drama, not a documentary

Sarah74 Sun 16-Oct-22 13:19:11

Anniebach

Old woman !

I’m the same age, and I don’t consider myself young or middle aged, so……

Jaberwok Sun 16-Oct-22 13:44:26

You're right, it is a drama,but when drama portrays living people surely it should be a true reflection of those people not an ooh ahh, gossip over the garden fence version which lots of people WILL perceive as real and could do the poor people being dramatized in a totally false light, a lot of harm? We don't watch a lot of TV so wouldn't warrant spending on any streaming company, not even sky! Netflix seems worse than most, but then of course it's all about money, and ssalacious gossip brings it in, the truth is neither here nor there and isn't by and large a money spinner.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 16-Oct-22 15:50:16

Leaving aside the fact that I firmly believe the monarchy to be an anachronism, I have no problem with Camilla being crowned. I think she's the best of the lot of them. She's clearly as suitable and well-matched a partner for Charles as his first wife so clearly wasn't. The real tragedy is that he wasn't allowed to marry her in the first place on the grounds that she was 'common' (ie not the royal or aristocratic brood mare he was expected to marry at the time). Fortunately that idea has been squashed forever.

I never bought into the Diana cult, nor did I fall for the poor, shy, hard-done-by little thing so cruelly used by the royal family. She was ruthless, cunning and manipulative; she had no compunctions about enlisting the media in her efforts to undermine her husband and his family. It's interesting to see how cruelly she and her brother treated their stepmother, Raine Spencer – that's a strong pointer to her true character.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 15:54:28

What did they do?

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 16-Oct-22 16:16:22

MissAdventure

What did they do?

Made it clear to her while their father was alive that she was an unsuitable partner for their father. Bullied her and treated her with open contempt.

When their father died they told her she was not welcome at Althorp. Diana watched her pack her belongings into suitcases and then told her she wasn't taking the suitcases because they were Spencer property. She and Charles stuffed all her belongings into black bin bags and threw them down the stairs.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 16:20:20

I understood the Reine had been totally uninterested in Diana and Charles when they were growing up.

Perhaps it was in response to that?

I don't know how old they were were when Reine stopped play.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-22 16:24:02

Isn’t it unusual for a step daughter to push her step mother
down a staircase.

Diana hated her step mother but later was very close to her step mother but had stopped speaking to her mother.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 16:28:27

I wouldn't know.

Judging by some of the tales on here about families, it seems not out of the realms of possibility.

I was just reading that Diana and Raine had a more civilised relationship as time went on, and would meet for lunch every few weeks.

silverlining48 Sun 16-Oct-22 16:36:54

Diana’s mother had just upped and left with a wallpaper millionaire Shand?!when Diana was very young. That must have been distressing and difficult for a young child. Then Reine came along and stopped play, ha ha !
I seem to remember that Diana and Reine worked things out latterly and used to spend time together. I am sure I saw photos of them looking glam having lunch somewhere fancy.
However that doesnt mean we know what went on. We can’t know anything other than snippets.
Diana was innocent or she was scheming. She was probably both at different times! Same as all of us.

silverlining48 Sun 16-Oct-22 16:38:13

X post missA

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 16:47:11

smile
Yes, crossed posts, same point of view.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 16-Oct-22 16:49:24

Jaberwok

Oh dear, I give up! More heresay . It's high!y unlikely that Charles spent the night before his wedding at the home of Camilla. ,But it makes an ooh aaah story and I'm sure Netflix will report this event,so it must be true! People find it hard to forgive? It's over 40 years ago, lots of people weren't even born then or were very young children and simply don't care!

Unless I'm misremembering, they spent the night before his wedding in a carriage of the royal train. The press assumed he spent the night with Diana and there was a lot of "ooh la la!" about it, because the media were desperately trying to spin the idea of the fairytale love match, when it was already clear to those with eyes to see that Charles was entering the marriage under duress. Only later did it emerge that Charles's companion was Camilla and not Diana.

There's no evidence that sexual relations took place that night. We'll probably never know the truth of course and it's no business of anybody themselves, but I'm inclined to believe that they met privately for a good long heart to heart, probably with a kiss or two and hugs.

MissAdventure Sun 16-Oct-22 16:53:11

I'm betting there was more than hugs had, that night. (If it ever happened, of course)

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-22 17:08:25

Charles is so clever, he was on the royal train and at a reception
at Buck house at the same time

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 16-Oct-22 17:13:41

The Buck House teception didn't go on all night you know!

Sarah74 Sun 16-Oct-22 17:14:23

At a reception at Buck house all night

Sarah74 Sun 16-Oct-22 17:14:29

?

Sarah74 Sun 16-Oct-22 17:14:41

X posts

silverlining48 Sun 16-Oct-22 17:17:22

Who could possibly think that spending the night before your wedding in a royal train a castle or the local travel lodge with your married lover, kissing, hugging or politely shaking hands would be a good idea and a great start to any marriage?
How could anyone think that’s ok. ( if it happened of course).

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 16-Oct-22 17:33:53

silverlining48

Who could possibly think that spending the night before your wedding in a royal train a castle or the local travel lodge with your married lover, kissing, hugging or politely shaking hands would be a good idea and a great start to any marriage?
How could anyone think that’s ok. ( if it happened of course).

I don't think many of us will have had an arranged marriage foisted on us against our will. Unless we are of South Asian heritage it's really not something we do. If we don't want the marriage we can pull out of it. He didn't have that opportunity.

Anniebach Sun 16-Oct-22 17:37:00

Who could possibly think Charles left Buck House in the night
with the thousands surrounding the area, drove to the royal
train which would have been under lock and key, spent the rest
of the night with Camilla then drove back to Buck House for
breakfast

Lucca Sun 16-Oct-22 17:54:48

Honestly this last page filled with stories that some people claim to know as facts…….hilarious.

Also. Netflix has films documentaries tv series etc nit just gossip and The Criwn.