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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

RichmondPark1 Wed 12-Oct-22 21:21:23

I was sad to read a poster describe Harry as 'stupid'.

From what I've read of his military training he proved himself anything but stupid. His charity work, campaigning on mental health issues and establishment of the Invictus Games would suggest that here's a bright young man contributing to society.

Lucca Wed 12-Oct-22 21:42:08

Venus de V You sound like a very unpleasant person I’m sorry to say. Bandying words like “stupid” around about people you have never met.

Harrys wife is capable of earning her own living as she did before she met him

They may make mistakes as do most people … oh maybe not you ?

Jaberwok Wed 12-Oct-22 22:14:28

Academically Harry is not bright. His scholastic qualifications wouldn't have got him anywhere near Sandhurst but for who he was. Lance Corporal ? Maybe. His time in Afghanistan was spent well behind the lines guarded by a battalion of Ghurkas. He wasn't nicknamed bungalow for nothing. As for happily married to a Narcissist ?Well who knows, in search of Megga dollars by trashing his family with lies and falshoods? A family who loved him. Well again . Who knows. A grandmother who actually adored him, but wasn't worth visiting, who on earth would behave like that? Somethings gone badly wrong for Harry, nobody treats their parents, grandparents, and extended family by exploiting them by lies to make enormous amounts of money. Just an awful way to behave.

LondonMzFitz Wed 12-Oct-22 22:27:04

It is interesting how every Royal post somehow spins to H&M ...

No, I don't think Camilla should be crowned. Maybe I am a bitter and twisted living in the past woman, but Diana was just 2 years younger than me and I feel a great empathy for her.

And Camilla isn't the only woman Charles "loved" (whatever that means). There were several other women in his life before Diana and after Camilla - and Charles and Camilla carried on an affair when they both had spouses, and young children. I don't feel the need to justify my feelings other than it doesn't sit right with me. They are going to stand in Westminster Abbey and proclaim to uphold the Christian faith because that is what works for them now .. it feels like a sham, paying lip service in order to get the title and crown(s).

I had a lot of respect for the Queen, and her dignity. C&C have a history I'm not going to forget just because it's convenient for others.

JaneJudge Wed 12-Oct-22 22:34:18

what are everyone's qualifications in the family?
could someone do a spreadsheet please

volver Wed 12-Oct-22 22:35:42

Roll on the Republic. Then the people who think they know what goes on in others' minds and motivations can obsess about the Kardashians instead.

hollysteers Wed 12-Oct-22 22:39:08

I’m not sure Charles and Camilla planned on marriage in the early stages. Yes, they were keen on each other, but he had a passionate affair with Kanga (remember her?) before Diana and probably others we don’t know about.
I may be in the minority, but I do believe Charles when he says he returned to Camilla when things went badly wrong with Diana and not before. She was unfaithful before him.

Jaberwok Wed 12-Oct-22 22:53:32

Surely most people have affairs before settling down? There's nothing wrong in that! I too believe Charles only returned to Camilla after his marriage irretrievably broke down . Diana too had many affairs and broke up at least two marriages. No one is perfect. Charles and Camilla have been happily married for 17 years without a breath of scandal, and yes she is extremely good for him and deserves to be Queen. If her late majesty thought this way then that's good enough for me

nanna8 Thu 13-Oct-22 00:12:26

I’m just glad Charles and Camilla seem to have found a great deal of happiness together and think it only appropriate that she be crowned. As for Harry, he is enormously rich, has a pretty wife and 2 children, good luck to him. Though I wish he would keep his gob shut, personally, because he doesn’t do himself any favours.

veejay Thu 13-Oct-22 00:58:16

Yes Camilla should be crowned .she is the kings wife and they love each other
She has been very discreet .not can used any scandal eye .and makes him happy
Charles didn't want to marry Diana .he was basically forced to find a wife.and she fitted the bill.
I felt sorry for them both,and terrible the way Diana died .but that is all in the past
I like Charles and think he will be a good king

denbylover Thu 13-Oct-22 02:55:24

I personally don’t think Camilla should be crowned. Whatever and however they lived earlier lives does not, imo, deserve respect.
However, how she puts up with Charles, who I think is a bit strange, (must be the way he’s been surrounded by sycophantic gophers all his life), (laugh when I crack a weird funny, and the hired help invariably do?) perhaps she does deserve some recognition! I think overall they deserve each other.

Jaberwok Thu 13-Oct-22 06:16:52

I don't think Camilla just 'puts up ' with Charles. I think it is pretty clear that she deeply loves him, and he her. Considering the appalling press and hateful public opinion she's had to cope with in the past, no one would just put up with somebody while ensuring that kind of vitriol. I think they're lucky to have each other.

Jaberwok Thu 13-Oct-22 06:18:26

enduring!

LovelyCuppa Thu 13-Oct-22 08:43:25

Why does she need to be crowned though? Surely if she is so happy to be supportive and in the background she could just stay that way?

Zoejory Thu 13-Oct-22 08:50:58

The Queen wanted her to be Queen Consort.

Elegran Thu 13-Oct-22 09:16:42

Does it do anyone else any harm for her to be crowned? If Charles sees it as an acknowledgment of her position beside him as support, no-one need be mean-spirited enough to grudge them both that acknowledgment, a quarter of a century after his divorce and Diana's death?

A lot of lofty talk of Christian principles. I don't see much of that in the continued spite against Camilla. What happened to Christian charity and forbearance?

25Avalon Thu 13-Oct-22 09:29:47

The latest kerfuffle is over which Crown will be used.

Jaberwok Thu 13-Oct-22 09:29:54

Exactly. Who on earth could be hurt or offended? If that's what the Queen wanted and Charles wants then why is it such a big deal? 'Let he who is without sin etc'.. The RF are human like anyone else, and I don't think for a moment Charles set out to deliberately make Diana's life a misery, or for that marriage
to fail. How many of us are squeaky clean so why should they be?

Rosie51 Thu 13-Oct-22 09:33:14

Well said Elegran. If we are to have a coronation then who does it hurt to have Camilla crowned as well? It will only add a few minutes to the ceremony, and nobody will be forced to watch. I didn't watch the funeral, and likely won't watch the coronation. In the great scheme of things it won't impact my life at all.

Kalu Thu 13-Oct-22 09:33:25

Zoejory

The Queen wanted her to be Queen Consort.

Meaning, the late queen didn’t want Camilla to be crowned Queen? Is Charles then going against his mother’s wishes?

I don’t keep up with royal news so may have got it wrong here.

Anniebach Thu 13-Oct-22 09:34:17

Kate - duchess of Cambridge

Sophie - countess of Wessex

Megan. - duchess of Sussex

Katherine. - duchess of Kent

volver Thu 13-Oct-22 09:37:33

Yes Kalu, you've got it wrong.

People who are so insistent on having an RF and keeping to tradition often have no idea how an RF or constitutional monarchy works, or what it's for. I don't mean you necessarily, Kalu

henetha Thu 13-Oct-22 09:49:15

How do you know what we know, Volver? That's a big assumption saying that we don't know how the RF or Monarchy works. As you seem to think you know everything perhaps you would like to enlighten us ignorant folks?

Kalu Thu 13-Oct-22 10:00:48

OK volver, I am happy to remain in blissful ignorance. ?

volver Thu 13-Oct-22 10:16:23

henetha

How do you know what we know, Volver? That's a big assumption saying that we don't know how the RF or Monarchy works. As you seem to think you know everything perhaps you would like to enlighten us ignorant folks?

"Often". I used the word "often". Not "always". Maybe most of you know. But "often" people say Camilla shouldn't be crowned because of Diana. Or Charles should have been passed over for William. Or Harry should have his titles taken away.

As a confirmed republican, I know that's not how monarchy works. Maybe that's why I'm a confirmed republican.