Camilla to be crowned.

Yes, crossed posts, same point of view.

X post missA

Diana’s mother had just upped and left with a wallpaper millionaire Shand?!when Diana was very young. That must have been distressing and difficult for a young child. Then Reine came along and stopped play, ha ha !
I seem to remember that Diana and Reine worked things out latterly and used to spend time together. I am sure I saw photos of them looking glam having lunch somewhere fancy.
However that doesnt mean we know what went on. We can’t know anything other than snippets.
Diana was innocent or she was scheming. She was probably both at different times! Same as all of us.

I wouldn't know.

Judging by some of the tales on here about families, it seems not out of the realms of possibility.

I was just reading that Diana and Raine had a more civilised relationship as time went on, and would meet for lunch every few weeks.

Isn’t it unusual for a step daughter to push her step mother
down a staircase.

Diana hated her step mother but later was very close to her step mother but had stopped speaking to her mother.

I understood the Reine had been totally uninterested in Diana and Charles when they were growing up.

Perhaps it was in response to that?

I don't know how old they were were when Reine stopped play.

MissAdventure

What did they do?

Made it clear to her while their father was alive that she was an unsuitable partner for their father. Bullied her and treated her with open contempt.

When their father died they told her she was not welcome at Althorp. Diana watched her pack her belongings into suitcases and then told her she wasn't taking the suitcases because they were Spencer property. She and Charles stuffed all her belongings into black bin bags and threw them down the stairs.

What did they do?

Leaving aside the fact that I firmly believe the monarchy to be an anachronism, I have no problem with Camilla being crowned. I think she's the best of the lot of them. She's clearly as suitable and well-matched a partner for Charles as his first wife so clearly wasn't. The real tragedy is that he wasn't allowed to marry her in the first place on the grounds that she was 'common' (ie not the royal or aristocratic brood mare he was expected to marry at the time). Fortunately that idea has been squashed forever.

I never bought into the Diana cult, nor did I fall for the poor, shy, hard-done-by little thing so cruelly used by the royal family. She was ruthless, cunning and manipulative; she had no compunctions about enlisting the media in her efforts to undermine her husband and his family. It's interesting to see how cruelly she and her brother treated their stepmother, Raine Spencer – that's a strong pointer to her true character.

You're right, it is a drama,but when drama portrays living people surely it should be a true reflection of those people not an ooh ahh, gossip over the garden fence version which lots of people WILL perceive as real and could do the poor people being dramatized in a totally false light, a lot of harm? We don't watch a lot of TV so wouldn't warrant spending on any streaming company, not even sky! Netflix seems worse than most, but then of course it's all about money, and ssalacious gossip brings it in, the truth is neither here nor there and isn't by and large a money spinner.

Anniebach

Old woman !

I’m the same age, and I don’t consider myself young or middle aged, so……

Jaberwok

Yes, I remember hearing about that portrayal of Aberfan and the Queens response to this appalling tragedy. False tears, among other outrageous things??!! Wicked and completely untrue. Dreadful outfit, rather not watch TV at all than subscribe to Netflix.

But it’s a drama, not a documentary

Old woman !

Yes, I remember hearing about that portrayal of Aberfan and the Queens response to this appalling tragedy. False tears, among other outrageous things??!! Wicked and completely untrue. Dreadful outfit, rather not watch TV at all than subscribe to Netflix.

I look forward to it. Even an old woman looks better in expensive jewellery and uniformed escort. Most of all I look forward to the Windsor Greys!

I was speaking of The Crown

Netflix has some absolutely brilliant series, each to their own.

Ages ago I read that The Crown was including the Aberfan
Disaster, I joined Netflix that day to watch, had a months free
trial, watched the episode then cancelled my subscription immediately. It’s quite frightening to think how they portray
the royal family.

And believe to be the absolute truth. We don't have Netflix or any of these streaming giants, and from what I've heard I have no desire to have, let alone pay, for what appears to be unadulterated rubbish/downright lies. Freeview is more than enough.

Agree Lexisgranny but many do believe’sources close to’ ,
Camilla is evil, Diana was a saint, neither is true. And there is
The Crown which it seems many watch.

Lexisgranny clearly you’re absolutely correct. We all surmise about this, that, or the other and form our opinions based on a few facts and a lot of opinion. We know lots about the royals, but there’s a lot more that we don’t know. So for example, I heard on a discussion programme that King Charles has said that if Harry’s new book criticises Camilla, that Harry and Meghan will not receive an invitation to the coronation. I have no idea whether Charles has said this, and I wouldn’t blame him if he has, but I don’t know because I believe this to be the opinion of a journalist who surmising what may happen. It’s unlikely we would be told if this were the case, and Harry and Meghan’s absence would be explained away by some excuse or other. My own opinion is that Charles will not prevent his son and daughter in law from attending his coronation but we’ll all have to wait and see. In the end, our opinions, or those of Harry, will not prevent Camilla from being crowned. Given that we have a monarchy. I think she should be, but it won’t be put to a national vote, and we’ll all have to accept whatever happens.

At the risk of stating the blee***g obvious, I think it fair to say that none of us on Gransnet were present as flies on every wall where these relationships were conducted. We did not hear every conversation, were not and are not privy to the innermost thoughts of Diana, Charles, the Queen, William, Harry, Catherine, Megan etc etc. Obviously, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but let us face it these opinions are based on not only our own values but what we have seen, and more likely on what we have been told. However many accounts one reads of a ‘situation’ how can we be sure that any one of them is correct. How reliable are “a palace source”, “a royal expert”, “a close friend”. Indeed do they even exist, or are they a figment of the imagination of the media?

As a (very) early riser I tend to read all the newspapers on line each morning and am aware of how much accounts vary of the same situation, not only as a result of the political bias of the newspaper, but the contrasting personal views of journalists working for the same newspaper. Just as statistics can be presented to prove whatever theory you wish them to support, so can other accounts.

We all have our views, I do, but I am willing to acknowledge that I may be wrong, because of the way facts have been presented to me. I wasn’t there, but neither was the writer of the article, and maybe it was written to manipulate me into believing a certain point of view rather than reporting the truth.

We may be intelligent enough to sort the wheat from the chaff, or do we just think we are?

Meghan?

Of course she should be crowned I think she had grown into her role very well she is supportive , caring and has a good sense of humour .William accepts her and I don't think Harry does but there again who does he like

I don't apologise for saying it. I now won't watch the coronation. Can't stand the woman. Each to their own.