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Camilla to be crowned.

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Esspee Wed 12-Oct-22 08:03:12

I was prepared to ignore the coronation, but for Charles to insist that his now wife be crowned is beyond the pale in my opinion.
I realise there are a huge number of royalists on Gransnet but do any of you agree with me that she should not be crowned?

DeeDe Fri 14-Oct-22 11:41:13

No she should not .. she is an adulterous woman who helped choose Diana thinking she was a week young thing, who wouldn’t notice what was going on ..
People are easily swayed and have short memories head of the Church of England complete p take ….

Jaberwok Fri 14-Oct-22 11:42:45

I have every respect for the RF.I think they do a brilliant job warts and all, and for certain we would be the poorer without them.

janipans Fri 14-Oct-22 11:42:49

Camilla seems to be very down to earth and is probably hating all this controversy. I bet she'd rather quietly do some good works or go to a Horse Show than a coronation, but to support the man she loves she is stuck in this invidious position!
If I were Prince Charles, I would commission a brand new, modern and understated coronet for the love of his life to be crowned with, perhaps utilising some of the jewels from family pieces that have some special meaning to him, together with a jewel/s of her choice to make is hers alone.
A modern piece for a more modern woman.
The Koh i Nor diamond should then be held in trust until the countries who are laying claim to it sort themselves out so that we know who to give it to - and then it should be duly handed over. The Royal family have plenty of other jewels, they don't need this one if it is not willingly bestowed.

Paperbackwriter Fri 14-Oct-22 11:43:30

silverlining48

I accept Camilla as consort but see no reason why she should be crowned.
Philip wasn’t crowned why would she be.

Our late queen's mother was crowned as Queen, alongside George V1 so why wouldn't Camilla? I agree it's a dated concept but even so, it's the way it's always been done.

Anniebach Fri 14-Oct-22 11:43:36

Who said Camilla helped to choose Diana ?

icanhandthemback Fri 14-Oct-22 11:43:44

No, I don't think she should be crowned.

GrannySquare Fri 14-Oct-22 11:45:41

I’m Spartacus!

Whiterabbit1956 Fri 14-Oct-22 11:45:53

I was dead set against Camila back in the day; but they were in love, whereas Charles and Diana were more of an arranged marriage. I'm sure we all loved Diana, she was a great lady and went through a lot of suffering, especially during the latter stages of her marriage to Charles.

Still Camilla and Charles were in love virtually from the outset, but he put his duty before his love, so I have to forgive him for that. As for Camilla, I still don't like her, but she has given her husband all the support he's needed throughout his life since.

With respect to the question posed, I don't care either way. If it makes Charles happy, then why not.; though I think he should pay for the privilege out of his own earnings from the vast estates he owns.

As others, I'm not a Royalist and would be happy to see the firm cut down in size; that said, they do perform a duty to the nation, and we have in the past been better for it; though I'm not so sure about the future.

I'm sure, sometime in the future; whether it be in our lifetimes, or our future offspring, the monarchy will come to an end as all monarchy's do in the end.

Before anyone says how unpatriotic I am, I'll let you know I served in the army, stood in a Queens parade and have fond memories of serving my country.

Grandmamum Fri 14-Oct-22 11:46:59

Quite simply, this was our late Queen's wish that Camilla should be crowned as Queen Consort, and there is no doubt that she is a strong and reliable support to the King. As for the late Princess Diana, the whole sad tragedy, as has been said, was 25 years ago and life carries on. We move forward

vampirequeen Fri 14-Oct-22 11:47:07

They can wear as many silly hats and costumes as they like as long as they pay for it. I object to having to chip in from my meagre income for their upkeep and extravagant theatrical events.

ReadyMeals Fri 14-Oct-22 11:47:42

Barb22

Personally I wouldn’t crown her , after all Philip wasn’t and she’s not queen but Queen consort. However I think there are more important issues in our country at the moment the way things are going we are doomed!

I am inclined to agree - as a general principle regarding wives of office holders. I don't really feel happy when spouses are trotted out as if they are part of, for example, a prime minister. Spouses should be free to follow their own separate paths, and just accompany their elected or crowned partners on private or socially oriented outings.

As for William and Harry complaining about being damaged by walking behind their mother's coffin, I bet they'd (or Harry would at least) be complaining about NOT having the opportunity to do so if they hadn't. Young adults these days do love parent-blaming - very much encouraged by the educational system who always assume the parents are doing something wrong if a child has problems - even though kids spend a large portion of their lives in the care of teachers!

hollie57 Fri 14-Oct-22 11:48:03

Good morning that me emigrating if she is going to be crowned I can only just cope with queen consort totally do not want her as queen cannot forgive what they did to Diana never will ,people do not forget we just tolerate the situation I know lots of you won’t like or agree with me but we still live in a free society at the moment thank goodness have a good day.??

hollie57 Fri 14-Oct-22 11:49:45

Love your post .

hollie57 Fri 14-Oct-22 11:50:58

Sorry whiterabbit love and agree with your post

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 11:51:32

totally do not want her as queen

You don't get a say. None of us get a say.

And Queen Consort is the same as Queen.

It's not a grown up way to run a country, is it?

Jeannii Fri 14-Oct-22 11:53:06

Crowned ! With what? I despise both of them and no matter what they have tried to do since to pull the wool over peoples’ eyes their treatment of Diana is unforgivable.
I’d crown them with crash helmet bearing the words “Liar”.

Mollygo Fri 14-Oct-22 11:54:29

Why not? When my brother remarried, no one came up with the idea that his new wife should not be known as Mrs . . .
What happened previously was not held against her.

I’m not bothered either way personally.

But it’s a good topic for us to agree or disagree on, enthuse or get irate about on GN and may reach the magic 1000-possibly even running to a second thread before the coronation.

SparklyGrandma Fri 14-Oct-22 11:54:30

I don’t envy her the hard work she will be doing, possibly keeping his temper and petulance in check. She deserves to be crowned, in my eyes.

She also has my respect because she has done a body of charitable work supporting charities helping women escape violence. As a woman who has lived in the real world, she is perfectly placed to do this, and has got well stuck in. Well done her.

Polly7 Fri 14-Oct-22 11:54:56

I agree with comments re her behaviour when Diana was literally put into a hideous position of wanting to marry the Prince she adored and in front of the world at such a young age, to find Camilla had Not backed away was appalling - Harry and William have had to accept to some level yes, but enough is enough after the disrespect their mum received - it was her life actually!

Ok. Be Consort yes but the truth can’t be dismissed surely
Their mum would have been ‘Queen’ and a wonderful one too had she not been betrayed by those two people in such an underhand way
I really don’t know how Camilla held her head up ( reported to have said to Diana ‘well you have the boys’. I ask you that’s dreadful Di only wanted a sincere marriage )

Rant over ?

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 11:55:27

YOU DON'T GET A SAY.

Please, please can we have a republic so that nobody thinks that plonking a jewelled hat on a woman is a really important thing? Can we have that? Please?

Anniebach Fri 14-Oct-22 11:55:53

Those who condemn Camilla, why do you find the hurt Diana
caused Mrs. Manakee, Mrs, Carling, Mrs.Hoare acceptable?

Theoddbird Fri 14-Oct-22 11:57:19

The Queen Mother wore a specially designed crown to the Kings coronation but she wasn't crowned. Prince Philip, as consort, was not crowned either. I am a royalist but don't think Camilla should be crowned. It does not follow that she should be.

Jaberwok Fri 14-Oct-22 11:57:30

Honestly DeeDe, I've read some rubbish but that takes the biscuit! Camilla choseDiana? Really?!! you have proof to support that statement? I think you'll find that the late Queen Mother + Diana's own grandmother Lady Fermoy chose Diana. Camilla is not an 'adulterous' woman, what a weird old fashioned expression. If that is the case, the Diana too was an adulterous woman several times over! Peoples marriages go wrong all the time, many find happiness elsewhere, nothing wrong in that. The Church of England doesn't condemn divorce and remarriage any more thank goodness, one of our dearest friends was a Bishop, and yes he was divorced and had remarried while remaining active Pastor. So all this guff about adultery is just that - Guff.

silverlining48 Fri 14-Oct-22 12:01:20

I have no axe to grind but surely it was the husbands of those named who broke their vows to their wives.

Polly7 Fri 14-Oct-22 12:02:12

..i do respect her good work of course but not her unforgivable behaviour - if she had disappeared when Charles got engaged they would have had a fair crack at making it work even through ups and downs but there was no chance of this
However I do get it that Charles was under pressure to provide an heir but that wasn’t so important, his brother was at hand
And if it hadn’t been so stuffy as to disallow marrying a commoner or divorced it wouldn’t have wrecked so many lives ! Eg poor Margaret with Townsend & King & Wallace)

The wider picture!