Camilla to be crowned.

My goodness does it really matter in the scale of things? So much going on in the world at the moment and we can still fall out over the trivial things. Live and let live.

How many here are divorced? How many have been in unhappy relationships? Let those without sin cast the first stone. Those in glass houses etc etc. Both Charles and Diana had affairs but it appears only Charles is castigated. Diana was no innocent and played the press letting them know in advance where she could be found. She loved the publicity when it suited her. Do you think they both should be trapped and miserable? Camilla has been the making of Charles. It is obvious he is a much happier person since getting together with her and she should be honoured as his wife.

This will run and run, what kind of man wants to be a tampon? What kind of woman would want a man who wants to be her tampon?
Camilla is welcome to him and his tantrums and peculiar ways.
"Frankly my dears I don't give a damn ", as long as this country does not have to pay for all their pomp and circumstance.

I don't want her crowned either. I always thought it should go to William and Kate and skip a generation. I'm not interested in the royals anymore. I said when the Quern went the monarchy should.

It's not going to happen so I will ignore. Incidently of the royal family my fave is H & M. That's another thread so I won't go there as to why

Charles did not say he wanted to be a tampon Yammy

It is perfectly normal for the kings wife to be crowned. They are following tradition. I think the only controversy here is the Indian diamond in the crown - which should be returned.

Compared with the vast majority of British Kings and Princes Charles is a saint if you are looking for precedents. Certainly the last King Charles was a right randy old b., spawning kids all over the place with his mistresses.

We need to move on , Diana is dead , but even if she was alive she wouldn’t be be Queen , they divorced, tbh Charles made one mistake , not having the courage to ask Csmilla to marry him firstly . Diana went on to have many affairs .
Let’s be grateful we have someone who loves the King and will be by his side.
We have more problems to worry about

Charles is a spoilt Man-Child.

Camilla should NOT be crowned.
You cannot polish a turd

So anything Charles did is irrelevant, but Diana is still fair game to be criticised, all these years after her death?

Totally and unjustifiably offensive, not to mention uncalled-for .

MawtheMerrier

Totally and unjustifiably offensive, not to mention uncalled-for .

If you mean the post at 12:59, I completely agree.

I don't mind her being crowned but she should not be anointed with holy oil. That should have disappeared when we got rid of the divine right of monarchs and adopted a constitutional monarchy.

They are both adulterers that ruined Diana's life. She could have ended the affair when he married but she carried on. He could have been faithful in his marriage also. Disgusting pair. She's the Queen of Tarts and he's the King of Adultery.
Diana's death made the way for him to marry her as a widower. Very convenient.

I quite like Camilla. She hasn’t put a foot wrong since joining the RF and just got her head down and got on with it, despite the vitriol that was coming from the papers and social media.
I’m not a huge fan of the RF but would rather have them than not.
The Queens funeral was a sight to behold and felt a little bit proud that people from all over the world would be watching and hopefully, thinking the same.
The coronation will have all the pomp and splendour and will be a great watch and I hope that will be seen worldwide and enjoyed.
I think that the RF is a huge asset to the UK.

Surely most people have affairs before settling down? There's nothing wrong in that!

The term "affair" is generally a reference to married persons, or people having a sexual relationship outside of that marriage. Camilla's first husband, in a book by Penny Junor, said the affair between Camilla and Charles started sometime after the birth of their daughter in 1978, certainly before 1980. Charles & Diana married in 1981. Camilla was having an affair, while married, when her children were 6 and 2. I personally see a lot wrong with that. ^ Charles says in his autobiography he and Camilla started their affair in 1986. Camilla divorced in 1995, Charles divorced in 1996. ^

had he been allowed to marry Camilla in the first place (and as likely no children from that marriage)

Camilla was 34 when Charles married Diana. If Charles had decided to marry Camilla at that time they could certainly have had children together - however, at that time it's pretty certain he would never be King. So the obvious choice would be marry the Virgin, affair with the married woman, be a King in the future. His choice.

Camilla is not an 'adulterous' woman, what a weird old fashioned expression. If that is the case, the Diana too was an adulterous woman several times over!

I don't think this can be excused as a "well she (Diana) did it too* because Diana isn't a reference to the thread of Camilla to be Crowned

I do believe Charles when he says he returned to Camilla when things went badly wrong with Diana and not before. She was unfaithful before him.

Not true.

A lot of lofty talk of Christian principles. I don't see much of that in the continued spite against Camilla. What happened to Christian charity and forbearance?
I wonder if the many people who criticise them have never gone off the rails and regretted it later?
When my brother remarried, no one came up with the idea that his new wife should not be known as Mrs . . .
The Church of England doesn't condemn divorce and remarriage any more thank goodness, one of our dearest friends was a Bishop, and yes he was divorced and had remarried while remaining active Pastor.

There is a remarkable difference between Joe/Jo Public (including any Bishops wandering by) and - Charles III, King of the United Kingdom and 14 other Commonwealth realms.

To stand (or sit) in Westminster Abbey, as King and Queen, to proclaim themselves as Head(s) of the Church of England and all that entails -

It's a lovely thing that these two people have each other, but, with their grubby past, it does not sit well with me that Camilla be crowned. I truly can't think of any argument that could possibly sway me.

I don't think you can say in one breath "but it (Coronation) is what has happened historically" and then in the next "what happened between C&C and C&D is in the past and should be forgotten". I do think the public are being manipulated by the Press in their general reporting of C&C as the golden couple, madly in love, should have been together from the start stories.

Gosh, long post, but catching up on the other posts on this thread there's so much stuff that's been bothering me ....

I am happy for Camilla to be crowned as I think she has tried hard and earned her place as Queen Consort. She has just quietly carried on. Like many of you I resented her at first because of the way Diana was treated but I think it’s possible to admire both women. People forget that Diana worked hard for the RF for well over a decade despite her personal unhappiness. Camilla has soldiered on in the face of great hostility although well past normal retirement age. Although it’s not that relevant to Camilla’s situation, I am surprised so many people insist Harry and Meghan are happy. Almost all the evidence suggests not - yes, it’s possible to find smiling photos of Harry but in the majority, especially off guard, he looks sad. I don’t wish him or Meghan ill, but I can’t see their future looking good with so much acrimony with both families. Such a waste of opportunities all round.

Here !here !

Camilla is Charles’ wife, his consort, and as such should be crowned, just like the Queen Mother and Queen Mary for instance. Camilla works extremely hard to support her husband, and does so much to promote literacy, and in support of those experiencing domestic abuse, to name just a couple of examples of her work.

Well said Humbertbear!

Anniebach

Charles did not say he wanted to be a tampon Yammy

Early on in the call, the couple - both married to other people at the time - dabbled in double entendres, before going full-on raunch:

CHARLES: Oh stop! I want to feel my way along you, all over you and up and down you and in and out . . .

CAMILLA: Oh!

CHARLES: Particularly in and out.

CAMILLA: Oh, that's just what I need at the moment.

CHARLES: Is it?

Then - in an idea that they probably both still wake up in a cold sweat about even now - they went...even deeper:

CHARLES: Oh, God. I’ll just live inside your trousers or something. It would be much easier!

CAMILLA: (laughing) What are you going to turn into, a pair of knickers? (Both laugh). Oh, you’re going to come back as a pair of knickers.

CHARLES: Or, God forbid, a Tampax. Just my luck! (Laughs)

Good grief, I can’t believe anyone thinks it’s right to publish and republish a private conversation, just for salacious gratification of the readers, no matter who the speakers are.
Sick!

There were no boos when they greeted the crowd after the Queen died

She should NOT be crowned- period.

RichmondPark1

25 years is a helluva long time to bear a grudge about a person you don't know from Adam, based on information provided third hand by the notoriously untrustworthy tabloid press.

Camilla must REALLY love Charles to have put up with everything she's tolerated over the years. Now she has to take this job on at a time in her life when most of us can relax. If I were her I'd wish I'd stayed happily single in my country house in Wiltshire and could spend my days wafting about with a terrier and a trug full of bulbs.

Well said that woman!