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If this was a natal born woman standing for election would it be acceptable to tolerated.

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GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Oct-22 09:31:33

Sheffields prospective Labour MP

grannydarkhair Mon 17-Oct-22 04:01:05

Speaking of Jamie Wallis -

twitter.com/jamiewallismp/status/1581700889102123009?s=61&t=yd2F79HI94G22uhbPEb0Qw

TerriBull Mon 17-Oct-22 11:58:45

Panko

EI looks quite conservatively dressed in comparison to this trans woman teacher from Ontario. The photo was taken whilst they were teaching a class of 12th grader pupils woodwork lessons.

I saw that image, does any biological woman have breasts that large shock Obviously this person has some sort of fetish but why does that have to be indulged in the school where they are teaching, I'm sure some of the students will be uncomfortable, many will snigger and what of female pupils? does such a parody not ridicule the female form sad

Doodledog Mon 17-Oct-22 12:21:24

Glorianny

One of the funniest people I have ever seen. The policies she believes in are Labour party policies. Why shouldn't there be a trans MP?
Given the natal woman we have as PM currently I know which I prefer.

Sigh.

Nobody has said that we shouldn't have a trans MP. We are saying that an MP who insists on using women's facilities, gets minders to keep cavey, (meaning that actual women are inconvenienced) and who shouts at teenage girls who question a man in the Ladies is probably not going to represent his female constituents very effectively.

Wyllow, I agree that the teacher image is irrelevant on this occasion, but not that people are objecting to Izzard because of 'how he looks'. He can look how he likes - in fact when he used to say that he didn't wear women's clothes, they were just clothes usually worn by women, I agreed with him and thought he was trailblazing. Pretending to be a woman is a different kettle of fish though.

MerylStreep Mon 17-Oct-22 12:36:55

If anyone had bothered to read the interview with Bruce Jenner they would see ( hopefully) that that remark was taken completely out of context. He was referring to his own problem
He explained that he has no inherent sense of style and wanted to get the look right.
I’m sure lots of us have seen trans who just don’t get the look.
Bruce wanted to make sure he did.

FarNorth Mon 17-Oct-22 18:39:14

At least Bruce Jenner sees that male people should not be in girls' and women's sport, as does René Richards btw.

Iam64 Mon 17-Oct-22 21:22:05

I don’t see Caitlin Jenner’s”look” as having got the look as a woman, right.
Dolly Parton does a great blond bombshell look but Caitlin looks like Bruce in a frock
Apologies for being unkind. I’ve had a tough day

Doodledog Mon 17-Oct-22 21:40:13

I hope you're ok, Iam. flowers

Iam64 Tue 18-Oct-22 08:04:22

Thanks Doodledog.

Prentice Tue 18-Oct-22 09:17:17

MaizieD

He's standing for selection as a candidate, Monica, not as an election candidate. I do hope that it's not on an all women shortlist...

What is the Labour Party thinking of?!
This man Izzard is neither funny nor a girl and I doubt very much he would be useful to Sheffield as a serious politician.
I do hope he will be rejected.

FarNorth Fri 21-Oct-22 22:01:01

Here's another man getting massive attention for pretending to be a woman.
Dylan Mulvaney.

"Biden welcomes trans TikToker to Oval Office after she HE sparked controversy for saying she HE will be a mom one day"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11341139/Biden-meets-trans-activist-TikTok-star.html

Wyllow3 Fri 21-Oct-22 22:35:25

For goodness sake, just read this as its a pretty accurate description of local views and where selection candidates stand

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/18/journalist-paul-mason-joins-labour-race-in-sheffield-central

Izzard doesn't have a lot of local standing compared with candidates reckoned to be favourites as well as who /blomfoed the current MP, strongly favours.

The article also gives ACCURATE information about all women lists.

Wyllow3 Fri 21-Oct-22 22:37:16

Correction: local MP Blomfield.

grannydarkhair Sun 23-Oct-22 10:20:58

Looks like he thinks he’s got a chance of being chosen.

twitter.com/eddieizzardlab/status/1583786335311376384?s=61&t=wzNeI3XTWqqaqmoyoOBERw

GrannyGravy13 Sun 23-Oct-22 11:31:50

This is the photo in the link

JaneJudge Sun 23-Oct-22 11:37:26

I don't know if anyone watched Friday night live but the transwoman performer did a very masculine display involving derogatory lyrics about being better than a woman and having tits that wont sag and stripping naked and playing the piano with 'her' dick. Apparently it was empowering

Nannytopsy Sun 23-Oct-22 11:40:37

It was certainly something JaneJudge but I don’t think that’s the word I would use!

nanna8 Sun 23-Oct-22 11:46:04

Empowering or overpowering?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 23-Oct-22 11:58:59

JaneJudge

I don't know if anyone watched Friday night live but the transwoman performer did a very masculine display involving derogatory lyrics about being better than a woman and having tits that wont sag and stripping naked and playing the piano with 'her' dick. Apparently it was empowering

I have just seen it.

Shocked at the cheering and clapping from the audience.

Totally disrespectful to women on so many levels.

Anyone saying that he is a woman needs to give their head a good wobble.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 23-Oct-22 17:47:28

This is why many women cannot vote for the Labour Party

FarNorth Sun 23-Oct-22 22:24:17

I've seen that misogynistic exhibitionist on twitter, heavily 'bleeped' because of the profanity, but with his full frontal display clearly on view.
It's being called 'iconic'.
I've complained to Ofcom about him.

I wonder if any of the supporters of transwomen, on here, will stroll by to tell us we simply lack a sense of humour.

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Oct-22 22:36:00

grannydarkhair

Looks like he thinks he’s got a chance of being chosen.

twitter.com/eddieizzardlab/status/1583786335311376384?s=61&t=wzNeI3XTWqqaqmoyoOBERw

I don't think so.

did you read the article I posted upthread?

FarNorth Tue 25-Oct-22 15:10:48

Dearie me, the things people say on twitter - female penis confused

Apparently, Sally Hines is a Gender Studies and Sociology academic.

Galaxy Tue 25-Oct-22 15:36:15

Oh Sally Hines is hilarious.

JaneJudge Tue 25-Oct-22 22:40:21

maybe part of autogynephilia is having fake boobs to play with whilst having your lady penis, I don't know. I have found all this more disturbing than anything else as it is in plain sight

I didn't remotely find it entertaining and I am pretty open minded ..

Wyllow3 Tue 25-Oct-22 22:47:51

My concern is associating Izard with any trans woman at all that someone finds offensive or ludicrous or whatever.

And therefore damning by associating.

Like any other group of people, it’s easy to find an extreme example to make a hostile point.

No I don’t find the example remotely funny. I just don’t lump people who happen to be from a minority group all the same is all.