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Tortes now at 19% in polls

(38 Posts)
Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Oct-22 06:59:47

Come on Lib Dems, time to overtake them?

Witzend Sun 16-Oct-22 18:17:37

Whitewavemark2

Oh dear. I wouldn’t say that tbh.

Look at all the seats absolutely ripe for the picking in the Tory heartland. A massive push by the Lib Dems will see the Tories off I’m sure.

The LDs would certainly win here - mind you the seat is LD already - but I expect by a much increased margin. Labour come nowhere here - it’s always a toss up between the Tories and the LDs.

varian Sun 16-Oct-22 18:08:40

She has never had the support of the majority of Tory MPs but how many of them have even the shred of integrity needed to voted against her policies?

M0nica Sun 16-Oct-22 14:08:00

She has had a chance and time. Her Chancellor announced a mini budget in days and got it so disastrously wrong, almost every measure has since been cancelled. All within six weeks.

How much more time is needed to prove that she is thoroughly incompetent

FannyCornforth Sun 16-Oct-22 08:28:46

Charleygirl I heard someone saying exactly the same thing on Any Answers yesterday.
It must have been the same clown, as I find it difficult to imagine that there are two of them ?

Charleygirl5 Sun 16-Oct-22 08:01:48

Casdon I heard some clown on LBC yesterday say that we should give Liz Truss a chance and time to get her policies in place. He, I think is one of the very low percentage who will vote blindly for the Tories.

Are you sure it is as high as 19%? Is she even going to be an MP? I have no idea or really care which constituency she represents.

M0nica Sun 16-Oct-22 07:35:32

Grantanow grin

Grantanow Sat 15-Oct-22 12:10:49

I owe Johnson an apology. He's not the worst Prime Minister in my lifetime!

varian Fri 14-Oct-22 20:16:22

I'm sorry about that M0nica.

If you read beyond the statement of principles you can find a whole range of policies. The details of the policies do change in response to changing circumstances and are very much determined by the views of members at conference.

Unfortunately our September conference had to be cancelled because the Queen had just died so the next opportunity to help to form policy will be at the spring conference. Perhaps you should attend.

M0nica Fri 14-Oct-22 19:47:42

varian It reads very well, but what does it mean other than mother love aand apple pie.

My posts are peppered with typos because I have dyspraxia and my fingers will not follow instructions from higher up my system and three fingers on my right hand are numb following an otherwise successful carpal tunnel syndrome operation. I try to proof read and correct, but dyspraxia interferes with that as well.

varian Fri 14-Oct-22 19:23:21

At every general election the LibDems do much better in terms of vote share than the polls predict because people see the candiates and hear about the politics in a way that does nor happen between elections.

winterwhite Fri 14-Oct-22 16:53:12

Varian is quite right.

The Lib Dems were unfortunate in having to cancel their Annual Conference last month (for which they got little public sympathy). The policy papers prepared for discussion there were varied and thorough. Ed Davy is a good leader.

The Lib Dems are well placed to win seats where Labour knows it has no chance, even now. No sense in talking them down.

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 16:36:15

More tortes. wink

twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1580874439926816768

(There's no swearing on this.)

User7777 Fri 14-Oct-22 16:15:20

19%. As much as that......

varian Fri 14-Oct-22 15:37:31

Shelagh Fogharty on LBC has just done an excellent interview with LibDem leader Ed Davey who has made a strong case for a new government.

We need a general election.

paddyann54 Fri 14-Oct-22 15:06:57

Scottish Tories sitting@ 6% .look to lose all six of their seats in a GE ,
Labiur are having what the Scottish media call a surge...that means they might take 3 of those tory seats ,simply because they are the clost thing to tories north of the border

.It would make my day if the wee weasle Ian Murray labours only MP loses his seat.my friend who lives in his constituency says its more than likely ,fingers crossed

varian Fri 14-Oct-22 14:59:00

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Oct-22 08:57:57

Bizarrely if we had PR now the Tories would do better winning more seats than the 4 they would get at 19%.

Casdon Fri 14-Oct-22 08:36:14

Daisymae

I can't believe that many people think that they are worthy of voting for

Me neither, the 19% can’t all be beneficiaries of their economic policy, so there must still be some blind and deaf voters out there somewhere.

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 08:30:13

?

vegansrock Fri 14-Oct-22 08:28:35

At this rate the SNP will be the official opposition

Daisymae Fri 14-Oct-22 08:20:57

I can't believe that many people think that they are worthy of voting for

Kandinsky Fri 14-Oct-22 08:15:14

If Labour don’t win the next election they might as well give up.

Katie59 Fri 14-Oct-22 08:13:27

Lib dems are very strong a local level but can’t get momentum at General elections, probably because they don’t have media support or financial support other large parties have.

volver Fri 14-Oct-22 08:12:55

I don't think it's Truss's lack of backbone we need to worry about.

Her lack of a brain, now...

Urmstongran Fri 14-Oct-22 07:54:54

I’m surprised the Tories are that high in the polls! ?
Truss seems to have little backbone and the sharks are circling.