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I am sick and tired of Tory histrionics

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:11:09

Meanwhile a UN Rapporteur has criticised the government for doing nothing for the poor, and millions of families are struggling to survive the months ahead, many becoming homeless and children hungry.

I could weep.

Dickens Thu 20-Oct-22 11:29:44

Doodledog

Another excellent post, Dickens. You should be a political columnist.

Thank you Doodlydoggie grin

To be scrupulously honest, I'm using soundbites and deliberately provocative language - and we can all do that.

I couldn't be a columnist of any description because when it comes to deep analysis - the kind of analysis that indicates you know what you are talking about - I lack!

Although I do read, look at facts, figures, statistics, etc, I operate mostly on instinct and emotion.

My instinct tells me that greed will ultimately destroy the planet and the people on it; that selfish individualism might allow you to shine for a few sunny hours after which you will become a victim of its philosophy (as Ayn Rand ultimately did when her and her husband's medical bills racked up in old age); and that society functions best when it co-operates.

And then my emotion gets the better of me and I explode with rage at the stupidity, arrogance, narcissism and utter deviousness of those who would willingly destroy everything that makes our short lives bearable, productive and happy (ish). I'm with John Donne. He was a Christian, I am an atheist, nevertheless I uphold with him that:

No man is an island, entire of itself;
Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were:
As well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me, Because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

I read Hemingway's novel, For Whom The Bell Tolls, at a very young age, and its imagery and the poem have stayed with me ever since.

Urmstongran Thu 20-Oct-22 11:36:34

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

Dickens Thu 20-Oct-22 11:46:11

MaizieD

James O'Brien totally on fire here and it brings tears to the eyes in places.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

... he certainly is on fire. Quite moving in places.

He looked defeated and down.

Thanks for the link.

Doodledog Thu 20-Oct-22 11:47:33

Urmstongran

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

Well no. But sexual peccadilloes or whatever is being hinted at are not in the same ballpark as ruining the country and condemning who knows how many families to penury.

The Mail is very fond of telling lascivious tales like that, which their readers obviously enjoy - but this is not in the interests of balanced journalism. It is whataboutery at its finest.

Dickens Thu 20-Oct-22 11:50:18

Urmstongran

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

I don't think anyone has ever subscribed to the view that, when it comes to sexual harassment, it's only Tory males that are the perpetrators.

Philippa111 Thu 20-Oct-22 11:53:46

I am so despairing of the total farce and the international laughing stock we have become.

I feel embarrassed to say I'm British and am so fed up I can't be bothered giving it space in my head any more

All I can say is the sooner Scotland can get away from these morons the better!

Urmstongran Thu 20-Oct-22 11:59:51

Hunt is not a "moderate" either, he is a Chinese lockdown fanatic who told with glee the story of how his sister's door was welded shut on a visit to China.

Grant Shapps is an incompetent buffoon who did nothing in Transport.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 12:03:12

Urmstongran

Hunt is not a "moderate" either, he is a Chinese lockdown fanatic who told with glee the story of how his sister's door was welded shut on a visit to China.

Grant Shapps is an incompetent buffoon who did nothing in Transport.

Mrs Hunt works for a Chinese State TV Station allegedly

Urmstongran Thu 20-Oct-22 12:05:06

I think he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing GG13

Philippa111 Thu 20-Oct-22 12:13:04

It's disgusting that millions of families in this country are now in deep poverty... something we might associate with a 3rd world situation.
There is no compassion or shame just self serving, power seeking low grade people, AKA politicians!! It's a farce!

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 12:13:23

So Jeremy Hunt's a Chinese spy now, is he?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 12:20:07

growstuff

So Jeremy Hunt's a Chinese spy now, is he?

Haven’t seen that posted here growstuff do you know something that you are not telling us?

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 12:22:29

growstuff

So Jeremy Hunt's a Chinese spy now, is he?

I suppose it diverts from the fact that he ruined the NHS when he was Health Secretary.

There's nothing like a bit of completely irrelevant whataboutery.

Shinamae Thu 20-Oct-22 12:24:28

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Oh you can’t blame anyone except the Tory party, - even they didn’t have a clue what was going on. Well, they mostly are clueless.

In fact no one is still clear as to what took place.

Cannot disagree, that the Conservatives are in chaos.

I remember a time when the news reported the news not supposition and rumours.

People now only remember the first soundbites unfortunately, not the actual news behind them.

??????????

Blossoming Thu 20-Oct-22 12:40:33

Urmstongran

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

An article from 2021 is the best you can come up with?

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 12:55:04

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

So Jeremy Hunt's a Chinese spy now, is he?

Haven’t seen that posted here growstuff do you know something that you are not telling us?

So what else are we supposed to assume from the revelation that Mrs Hunt worked (works?) for Sky TV's "China Hour"?

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 12:57:19

I can think of plenty of things I could write about Jeremy Hunt, but allegations about his Chinese-born wife is an indication that the desperate are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 13:01:33

growstuff

I can think of plenty of things I could write about Jeremy Hunt, but allegations about his Chinese-born wife is an indication that the desperate are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Oh I am desperate, desperate to see him out of office.

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 13:10:08

Whom would you prefer?

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 13:15:17

growstuff

Whom would you prefer?

I have a preference for Rishi Sunak.

Honestly I think we need a GE, whoever is in the cabinet or even PM they are just a rather lame duck cohort.

I know that we do not vote for a PM, we only vote for our constituency MPs however the only person with a mandate to be PM was/is Mr.Johnson and the likelihood of him being back in No.10 is zero.

growstuff Thu 20-Oct-22 13:18:50

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not so sure Sunak would have come up with anything different, but who knows?

I agree with you that the only way out of the impasse is a GE.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 13:33:41

So what now?

A coronation?

Do we all stand by twiddling our thumbs whilst the idiots spend yet more time navel gazing

Wyllow3 Thu 20-Oct-22 14:32:19

MaizieD

James O'Brien totally on fire here and it brings tears to the eyes in places.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

Everyone in this country, especially those about to vote, should listen to the superb James O'Brian, thank you Maizie

We need a general election.
The mostly vacuously ambitious people scrabbling for power atm, should be made to answer O'Brian's points.

avitorl Thu 20-Oct-22 18:27:37

I am becoming seriously depressed by the mess we are in as a Nation. If Boris Johnson is brought back as PM I feel like trying to escape the country but I really wouldn't know where to flee to.

Zuki Thu 20-Oct-22 21:26:12

If Labour got in Starme r would be on telly so much it would
be really depressing he never had any interesting ideas in opposition and h e wouldn't be able to continue to tell everyone how disgusted he is With the Tories So what would be have to say