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I am sick and tired of Tory histrionics

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:11:09

Meanwhile a UN Rapporteur has criticised the government for doing nothing for the poor, and millions of families are struggling to survive the months ahead, many becoming homeless and children hungry.

I could weep.

grannyrebel7 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:22:02

Yes me too Whitewave. The sooner we get rid of these bloody Tories the better! We must be a laughing stock on the world stage atm. One of the richest countries and we've got people starving. It's an absolute disgrace.

lixy Thu 20-Oct-22 09:22:41

This is on the BBC site - what the world is saying. They don't seem surprised.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63293009

I decided during the Johnson fiasco that I would concentrate on helping locally and not worry about the bigger picture as I couldn't do anything about it. So litter-picking in the park, local gardening and volunteering have helped me stay positive.

Wyllow3 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:32:06

grannyrebel7

Yes me too Whitewave. The sooner we get rid of these bloody Tories the better! We must be a laughing stock on the world stage atm. One of the richest countries and we've got people starving. It's an absolute disgrace.

Well said Whitewave. Its like watching episode after episode of East Enders.

Now the government has asked departments to cut and yet day by day more and more reports emerge of struggles to get health and care help. Yes they say we will tackle x, y, z but they are to cut. Disgusted.

Despite the upheaval that will occur, I'm desperate for a GE and Starmer in power. Yes they have a mammoth task. Yes the are far from perfect.

But they have their values in the right place. People first. Spot on doing what we can, I can't be very active, but we need to bring back the culture of caring for those around us. (well done lixy

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:39:04

Even if Truss goes, we are still lumbered with the mediocrity and damage being done to the U.K.

It has gradually got worse and worse since 2010, until we’ve got to this state.

nanna8 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:43:20

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.

Blossoming Thu 20-Oct-22 09:48:27

nanna8

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.

It’s rapidly dropping down the list!

Luckygirl3 Thu 20-Oct-22 09:49:36

Doing something right for whom?

Certainly not those at the bottom the heap, financially, educationally, housing-wise, socially. They continue to suffer, and to watch this government pile more on them.

A government that does this has no morality - and is certainly not a government I want at the helm.

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 09:50:38

nanna8

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.

It's absolutely no thanks to our current government, nanna8. They are working very hard to make us poorer.

RichmondPark1 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:03:53

Through all this Boris Johnson is apparently on holiday with his family in the Dominican Republic.

I noticed he didn't vote last night and wondered where he was. How can he be on holiday (again) whilst this chaos is going on? I wonder what his constituents thing of his absence?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:06:42

No wonder that the population is looking at the MPs abilities with a very jaundiced opinion.

Apparently the vast majority of MPs who lose their seat find it extremely difficult to find employment.

They are unemployable, and yet feel able to criticise the British worker.

They know nothing!!

RichmondPark1 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:11:14

As Charles Walker said, there's nothing as ex as an ex MP.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:21:04

A lesson that I hope the BBC and other news outlets have learned in the last 24 hours, just because someone shouts

I don’t want to do this job anymore

isn’t a confirmed resignation.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:23:19

Oops sorry premature posting

These outlets widely reported the resignation of the Chief Whip and her Deputy without carrying out due diligence to confirm whether this was true.

Causing a feeding frenzy on SM including GN, I am guilty of believing this at the time …

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:26:13

Oh you can’t blame anyone except the Tory party, - even they didn’t have a clue what was going on. Well, they mostly are clueless.

In fact no one is still clear as to what took place.

Dickens Thu 20-Oct-22 10:27:24

The Tory party is fighting for its own survival and its members individually for their own personal fortunes and futures.

Like a pack of hyenas, they will turn, not only on outsiders, but on their own.

We will see and are seeing the true nature of the free-market, libertarian, small-state, 'every-man-for-himself' ideology in all its Ayn Rand objective, individualistic glory.

Truss, swinging around on deck like the loose cannon she is - sounding like a sixth-former in a debating society every time she opens her mouth.

The party have spent years destroying public services and at the very same time telling us that only they can 'fix' them.

Britannia Unchained, Britannia unhinged more like. To hell with the lot of them.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:29:51

Whitewavemark2

Oh you can’t blame anyone except the Tory party, - even they didn’t have a clue what was going on. Well, they mostly are clueless.

In fact no one is still clear as to what took place.

Cannot disagree, that the Conservatives are in chaos.

I remember a time when the news reported the news not supposition and rumours.

People now only remember the first soundbites unfortunately, not the actual news behind them.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:31:37

Blame the right wing press

Doodledog Thu 20-Oct-22 10:33:04

Another excellent post, Dickens. You should be a political columnist.

RichmondPark1 Thu 20-Oct-22 10:33:44

It appears that most media outlets are desperately trying to rapidly provide coverage of the actions of a group of mercurial, incompetent, lying, unprofessional clowns who do not abide to the rules and protocols that bind normal decent folk.

I don't envy the journalists their job and if, because of the level of chaos, misinformation and poor communication, they occasionally have to revisit the story with updates then that's acceptable isn't it?

The BBC were far from the first to post the story. MPs were tweeting it before I read it elsewhere.

If there is a feeding frenzy, if that's what you want to call it, it's because of the circus created by this party who have had their day and should go.

Normandygirl Thu 20-Oct-22 10:46:51

According to Mp's, Liz Truss left the lobby last night, without voting, hanging onto the arm of her Chief Whip begging her not to go.
So, Liz couldn't even manage to vote for confidence in herself?grin

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 11:10:16

James O'Brien totally on fire here and it brings tears to the eyes in places.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 11:15:05

Normandygirl

According to Mp's, Liz Truss left the lobby last night, without voting, hanging onto the arm of her Chief Whip begging her not to go.
So, Liz couldn't even manage to vote for confidence in herself?grin

Ah, but they've fiddled it. The story is that she and the chief whip forgot to scan their parliamentary passes but they did go into the 'No lobby'. (No doubt they couldn't get near the scanner in the fighting to get reluctant MPs into the lobby)

Frankly, if they're that incompetent they should be recorded as abstaining, whoever they are.

And Parliament needs a better system of recording lobby votes.

Here's James O'Brien's take on our utterly disgraceful government. (I make no apology for posting this on more than one thread)

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 11:15:55

Whoops, posted the same link twice, thought I was on another thread now. Sorry.. blush

MaizieD Thu 20-Oct-22 11:22:02

Here's another one for you. Yvette Cooper in full flow

mobile.twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1583031258212225025