I am sick and tired of Tory histrionics

Urmstongran

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

I don't think anyone has ever subscribed to the view that, when it comes to sexual harassment, it's only Tory males that are the perpetrators.

Urmstongran

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

Well no. But sexual peccadilloes or whatever is being hinted at are not in the same ballpark as ruining the country and condemning who knows how many families to penury.

The Mail is very fond of telling lascivious tales like that, which their readers obviously enjoy - but this is not in the interests of balanced journalism. It is whataboutery at its finest.

MaizieD

James O'Brien totally on fire here and it brings tears to the eyes in places.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

... he certainly is on fire. Quite moving in places.

He looked defeated and down.

Thanks for the link.

Sadly, it’s not just the Tories.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11335609/MP-investigated-sexual-harassment-claims-report-released-TOMORROW.html

Doodledog

Another excellent post, Dickens. You should be a political columnist.

Thank you Doodlydoggie

To be scrupulously honest, I'm using soundbites and deliberately provocative language - and we can all do that.

I couldn't be a columnist of any description because when it comes to deep analysis - the kind of analysis that indicates you know what you are talking about - I lack!

Although I do read, look at facts, figures, statistics, etc, I operate mostly on instinct and emotion.

My instinct tells me that greed will ultimately destroy the planet and the people on it; that selfish individualism might allow you to shine for a few sunny hours after which you will become a victim of its philosophy (as Ayn Rand ultimately did when her and her husband's medical bills racked up in old age); and that society functions best when it co-operates.

And then my emotion gets the better of me and I explode with rage at the stupidity, arrogance, narcissism and utter deviousness of those who would willingly destroy everything that makes our short lives bearable, productive and happy (ish). I'm with John Donne. He was a Christian, I am an atheist, nevertheless I uphold with him that:

No man is an island, entire of itself;
Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main.

If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were:
As well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were.

Any man's death diminishes me, Because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

I read Hemingway's novel, For Whom The Bell Tolls, at a very young age, and its imagery and the poem have stayed with me ever since.

Here's another one for you. Yvette Cooper in full flow

mobile.twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1583031258212225025

Whoops, posted the same link twice, thought I was on another thread now. Sorry..

Normandygirl

According to Mp's, Liz Truss left the lobby last night, without voting, hanging onto the arm of her Chief Whip begging her not to go.
So, Liz couldn't even manage to vote for confidence in herself?

Ah, but they've fiddled it. The story is that she and the chief whip forgot to scan their parliamentary passes but they did go into the 'No lobby'. (No doubt they couldn't get near the scanner in the fighting to get reluctant MPs into the lobby)

Frankly, if they're that incompetent they should be recorded as abstaining, whoever they are.

And Parliament needs a better system of recording lobby votes.

Here's James O'Brien's take on our utterly disgraceful government. (I make no apology for posting this on more than one thread)

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

James O'Brien totally on fire here and it brings tears to the eyes in places.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583031711092596736

According to Mp's, Liz Truss left the lobby last night, without voting, hanging onto the arm of her Chief Whip begging her not to go.
So, Liz couldn't even manage to vote for confidence in herself?

It appears that most media outlets are desperately trying to rapidly provide coverage of the actions of a group of mercurial, incompetent, lying, unprofessional clowns who do not abide to the rules and protocols that bind normal decent folk.

I don't envy the journalists their job and if, because of the level of chaos, misinformation and poor communication, they occasionally have to revisit the story with updates then that's acceptable isn't it?

The BBC were far from the first to post the story. MPs were tweeting it before I read it elsewhere.

If there is a feeding frenzy, if that's what you want to call it, it's because of the circus created by this party who have had their day and should go.

Another excellent post, Dickens. You should be a political columnist.

Blame the right wing press

Whitewavemark2

Oh you can’t blame anyone except the Tory party, - even they didn’t have a clue what was going on. Well, they mostly are clueless.

In fact no one is still clear as to what took place.

Cannot disagree, that the Conservatives are in chaos.

I remember a time when the news reported the news not supposition and rumours.

People now only remember the first soundbites unfortunately, not the actual news behind them.

The Tory party is fighting for its own survival and its members individually for their own personal fortunes and futures.

Like a pack of hyenas, they will turn, not only on outsiders, but on their own.

We will see and are seeing the true nature of the free-market, libertarian, small-state, 'every-man-for-himself' ideology in all its Ayn Rand objective, individualistic glory.

Truss, swinging around on deck like the loose cannon she is - sounding like a sixth-former in a debating society every time she opens her mouth.

The party have spent years destroying public services and at the very same time telling us that only they can 'fix' them.

Britannia Unchained, Britannia unhinged more like. To hell with the lot of them.

Oh you can’t blame anyone except the Tory party, - even they didn’t have a clue what was going on. Well, they mostly are clueless.

In fact no one is still clear as to what took place.

Oops sorry premature posting

These outlets widely reported the resignation of the Chief Whip and her Deputy without carrying out due diligence to confirm whether this was true.

Causing a feeding frenzy on SM including GN, I am guilty of believing this at the time …

A lesson that I hope the BBC and other news outlets have learned in the last 24 hours, just because someone shouts

I don’t want to do this job anymore

isn’t a confirmed resignation.

As Charles Walker said, there's nothing as ex as an ex MP.

No wonder that the population is looking at the MPs abilities with a very jaundiced opinion.

Apparently the vast majority of MPs who lose their seat find it extremely difficult to find employment.

They are unemployable, and yet feel able to criticise the British worker.

They know nothing!!

Through all this Boris Johnson is apparently on holiday with his family in the Dominican Republic.

I noticed he didn't vote last night and wondered where he was. How can he be on holiday (again) whilst this chaos is going on? I wonder what his constituents thing of his absence?

nanna8

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.

It's absolutely no thanks to our current government, nanna8. They are working very hard to make us poorer.

Doing something right for whom?

Certainly not those at the bottom the heap, financially, educationally, housing-wise, socially. They continue to suffer, and to watch this government pile more on them.

A government that does this has no morality - and is certainly not a government I want at the helm.

nanna8

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.

It’s rapidly dropping down the list!

I think the UK is still up there with the richest countries in the world and considering it’s size someone must be doing something right.