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Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Oct-22 14:06:11

Who?

GrannyRose15 Tue 25-Oct-22 22:12:10

Galaxy

I agree that use of his forst name is part of his general manipulation. I always call him Johnson or twat, either is fine with me.

It's not his first name though, is it? His friends call him Alexander. "Boris"is much more of a nickname and as such can be used to convey a negative as well as a positive attitude towards him.

nanna8 Sun 23-Oct-22 22:46:42

Thank goodness Boris has pulled out because it would have looked like a set up otherwise. A bit of hope there, not that the other candidates seem to be much chop.Count down the days to your GE.

Curlywhirly Sun 23-Oct-22 22:30:11

Penny M still running, but it's doubtful that she will get 100 votes - but I suppose we will have to wait until tomorrow to be sure.

Anniel Sun 23-Oct-22 21:57:08

I go out for a couple of hours and everything changes! So this means that Rishi is de facto the next PM? Or is Penny M still running?

Coco51 Sun 23-Oct-22 21:32:56

volver

Reporting on BBC that Boris Johnson is thinking of standing.

We're a banana republic.

Agree with you, Volver.

Curlywhirly Sun 23-Oct-22 21:20:41

Jaxjacky

Not Boris, he’s pulled out.

So Rishi it is then! Tomorrow. No need to go to the members, as he has more than 100 votes.

Jaxjacky Sun 23-Oct-22 21:03:56

Not Boris, he’s pulled out.

Normandygirl Sun 23-Oct-22 20:59:20

Well colour me shocked. Just been reading that it is not a requirement to be a British citizen, be domicile in the UK or have the right to vote in the UK, to become a member of the conservative party. This means that anyone from outside the country who pays £25 membership can vote in the next PM.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62503218

varian Sun 23-Oct-22 19:38:07

There are many decent MPs capable of running the country but none of them are members of the Tory party.

We need a general election ASAP.

Blossoming Sun 23-Oct-22 19:36:33

volver

No, my hope would be that the 80,000 people who thought Truss was a good idea don't get anywhere near deciding who succeeds her.

My secondary hope is that Johnson is humiliated.

My feelings too.

Fleurpepper Sun 23-Oct-22 19:33:51

Got it in one MB70!

MayBee70 Sun 23-Oct-22 19:22:00

So Johnson supporters say that the manifesto of 2019 doesn’t need to be adhered to because so much has changed since then. But Johnson should be PM again because he’s the only one that has a mandate in 2019 from the electorate to lead the party and the country. confused

Jools22 Sun 23-Oct-22 19:18:30

It true to say we vote for the local MP or political party not the PM. But after so many changes of the leader bringing different policies to what the people voted for. I think that a GE would sort out the belief of the system no matter who won. I don’t think the Conservative should be scared of a GE we the people can spring many surprises

LovelyLady Sun 23-Oct-22 18:22:29

Any London Taxi driver would do a decent job.

katy1950 Sun 23-Oct-22 18:16:28

There isn't one mp in any party that as the capability to run our country I think we are in dire straits

volver Sun 23-Oct-22 17:51:48

No, my hope would be that the 80,000 people who thought Truss was a good idea don't get anywhere near deciding who succeeds her.

My secondary hope is that Johnson is humiliated.

Anniel Sun 23-Oct-22 17:48:17

Volver, Yes you can hope! Todays broadsheets indicate that Rishi and Boris will be the main contenders as Penny M seems to have many fewer supporters.

Todays DT says there may be a deal between Boris and Rishi so that one gives the other a ministry of their choice. I hope not. I could not support Boris again and I dislike his wife intensely as so many other Conservatives do, I do not recall any recent PM whose partners got so involved in Party policy.

I know that there will be no imminent election, but I cannot see the Conservatives winning again whatever time elapses. So it is just a matter of time. I hear that MPs do not want the members to have a vote as they think we are all elderly Boris supporters. We may have been in 2019 but not now.

Volver is correct but her hope would end up with a Rishi/Boris deal. And ofcourse that, in my opinion, is a very bad outcome.

volver Sun 23-Oct-22 17:25:48

Each candidate will require 100 nominations from Conservative MPs.

If only one candidate secures the required nominations there will be no confirmatory vote of Party members and the candidate will be confirmed leader on Monday 24 October 2022.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01366/

The membership may get no say at all. We can hope.

Anniel Sun 23-Oct-22 17:16:17

Mamie,
I did not seek to mislead.
Here is the email

As you will be aware, following the recent resignation of our Prime Minister, a leadership contest will be held to elect the next Leader of the Conservative Party.

Nominations to stand for election will close at 2pm on Monday 24th October. The Parliamentary Party will then vote to decide the final two candidates who will participate in the online member ballot.

As it stands, if you continue to remain a paying member of the Party, you will be entitled to vote in the contest.

The member ballot is due to open Tuesday 25th October and close Friday 28th October at 11am.

Due to the tight deadlines, this will be a fully online ballot - instructions detailing how to vote will be emailed to all members when the ballot opens.

Dickens Sun 23-Oct-22 17:00:30

HousePlantQueen

Completely agree Dickens. Could I also add the group who are so busy concerning themselves with whether others are getting more than them/than they 'deserve', that they can't see what is being done. We read this every blinking day on GN, those who make snide comments about people at foodbanks with 'the latest mobile phones and flatscreen tv'. People who punch down when they should punch up. Nicely targeted articles about 'benefit cheats' in the usual newspapers rags, whip it all up and people not only believe it, they vote based upon what they have read.

Yes HPQ - those also. It's odd that so many appear to know of others who are living the life of Riley on benefits. As with a lot of these things, there's always a nugget of truth in these wild claims - there are benefit 'cheats', but the implication that most of them are is just right-wing hype, more divide-and-rule.

Just as an aside - I thought all TVs were now "flat-screen"! I remember when they first appeared on the market - hugely expensive... this mantra obviously originated around that time - because they no longer cost those ridiculous amounts.

I like your name. I'm a huge house-plant enthusiast. I have them in every room. smile

Theoddbird Sun 23-Oct-22 16:54:23

MaizieD life was a little different then as well you know!

Gwenisgreat1 Sun 23-Oct-22 16:50:34

One is as bad as the other - heaven preserve us! I don't trust Rishi, I think he engineered Boris's eviction hoping to get in himself.

IrishDancing Sun 23-Oct-22 16:35:29

What Bluecat said. And if any of his fans think Johnson got Brexit done - ask the people of N Ireland …

Grannybags Sun 23-Oct-22 16:00:41

Galaxy

I agree that use of his forst name is part of his general manipulation. I always call him Johnson or twat, either is fine with me.

???

Zoejory Sun 23-Oct-22 15:55:05

I do know that as well, Maizie.