Boris Johnson has pulled out of the leadership race

JRM has stepped down from his latest ministerial post ( before he was pushed I would imagine). I’m sure he’ll say he was in line for promotion. Or maybe they’ve run out of ministerial posts to create for him? Minister for filibustering perhaps!

A red wall voter said ‘he’s one of us’ but Rishi is rich! Why do they not realise that Johnson is rich, too. And I doubt if Rishi would burn bank notes in front of homeless people.

Interesting interviews on TV last night from people who voted Conservative. They were saying MPs and Rishi Sunak stabbed Boris in the back and they wanted Boris back. The questions about his misdemeanours was countered with "well they all do that don't they". He is still popular in some places.

What Boris' acolytes say, like anything that Boris says, cannot be believed. 57 Boris supporters went public, I really doubt whether the other 45 were anything more than vague put-offs.

There would have been a lot of private polling. I am signed up with YouGov and there have been several questions of the day regarding what I thought about Boris and his return. You always get a brief glance of how the results have been stacking up and those supporting hm were a small minority compare with those saying he would be an absolute disaster. YouGov participants are not just Conservative party members

I said to DH "Perhaps he'll give up politics altogether"
DH said he thought he already had.

His acolytes were saying yesterday lunchtime that Boris had 100 votes in the bag. At the time he dropped out he only claimed 102. Only two at most in a busy nine hours. Funny that.

Indeed, it has only ever been about Boris. Not the party, not the country, just Boris. He couldn't bear to be seen as a loser, so he cooked up the story about standing down magnanimously for party and country.

HousePlantQueen

Delighted though I am that the disgraced Johnson has slunk off, for now, with his tail between his legs, we need to brace ourselves for Sunak. He may wear a suit better than Johnson ( then again, my dog does), and can speak well on the international stage ( see previous comment re dog), but he is extreme right in his economic policies, we are in for a rough ride.

I agree, extreme cuts to public services ahead. I don’t know why Hunt is celebrated either. He all but destroyed the NHS during his long stint as Health Minister.

And then there was one.

Sickening. All that frenzied banging on tables as if there was something to be celebrated. They should be hanging their heads in shame at what brought this all about.

I’m consoling myself that it’s been a kick in the teeth for Johnson and ReesMogg, not before time.

There’s going to do all the banging on the tables thing now…deja vu

And now Mordaunt has pulled out…

HousePlantQueen

Delighted though I am that the disgraced Johnson has slunk off, for now, with his tail between his legs, we need to brace ourselves for Sunak. He may wear a suit better than Johnson ( then again, my dog does), and can speak well on the international stage ( see previous comment re dog), but he is extreme right in his economic policies, we are in for a rough ride.

So we are, indeed.

And accompanying civil unrest as hospitals get jammed and care fails and the food banks get longer, and hopefully opposition at a level where a GE is unavoidable.

Delighted though I am that the disgraced Johnson has slunk off, for now, with his tail between his legs, we need to brace ourselves for Sunak. He may wear a suit better than Johnson ( then again, my dog does), and can speak well on the international stage ( see previous comment re dog), but he is extreme right in his economic policies, we are in for a rough ride.

Zoejory

winterwhite

I think and hope that BJ may find soon something more lucrative and popular to do than being MP for Uxbridge.

Zoejory my recollection was that RS justified allocating some funding to Tonbridge Wells for something or other by saying that wealthy areas sometimes needed help as well as deprived ones. Dubious thinking certainly but not quite taking money away. No idea whether they ever got it.
If he wins I think and hope he'll appoint a competent cabinet.

Not quite, winterwhite

“We inherited a bunch of formulas from Labour that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas and that needed to be undone. I started the work of undoing that

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/05/video-emerges-of-rishi-sunak-admitting-to-taking-money-from-deprived-areas

I suppose Labour were being shocking by trying to put money into deprived areas

Quite extraordinary seeing that Labour was last in power 12 years ago.

If that was considered to be wrong why didn't 12 years of tory government do anything to rectify it?

Don't be deceived by appearances. Sunak is going to break the domestic economy.

winterwhite

I think and hope that BJ may find soon something more lucrative and popular to do than being MP for Uxbridge.

Zoejory my recollection was that RS justified allocating some funding to Tonbridge Wells for something or other by saying that wealthy areas sometimes needed help as well as deprived ones. Dubious thinking certainly but not quite taking money away. No idea whether they ever got it.
If he wins I think and hope he'll appoint a competent cabinet.

But there aren’t many competent people left. Even people like Alok Sharma, who I thought was a good bloke, was supporting Johnson. Tugendhat supported Truss last time round. Raab co wrote ‘that book’ with Truss and Kwarteng. Braverman is, well, Braverman. Sunak is far far more right wing than most people realise: as somebody said on Sky News last night he’s much more right wing than Johnson.

Byeeeeeee, baby!

Could the people of Uxbridge raise a petition requesting that their MP is replaced as he is not serving the Community?

Surely if that petition collected a large proportion of voters- it would have to be taken into account? What is the Law?

How on earth did we get here? We have an ex prime minister whose own supporters are saying that they're not sure if he's lying or not about having 102 MPs and still people defend him

winterwhite

I think and hope that BJ may find soon something more lucrative and popular to do than being MP for Uxbridge.

Zoejory my recollection was that RS justified allocating some funding to Tonbridge Wells for something or other by saying that wealthy areas sometimes needed help as well as deprived ones. Dubious thinking certainly but not quite taking money away. No idea whether they ever got it.
If he wins I think and hope he'll appoint a competent cabinet.

Not quite, winterwhite

“We inherited a bunch of formulas from Labour that shoved all the funding into deprived urban areas and that needed to be undone. I started the work of undoing that

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/05/video-emerges-of-rishi-sunak-admitting-to-taking-money-from-deprived-areas

I suppose Labour were being shocking by trying to put money into deprived areas

I think and hope that BJ may find soon something more lucrative and popular to do than being MP for Uxbridge.

Zoejory my recollection was that RS justified allocating some funding to Tonbridge Wells for something or other by saying that wealthy areas sometimes needed help as well as deprived ones. Dubious thinking certainly but not quite taking money away. No idea whether they ever got it.
If he wins I think and hope he'll appoint a competent cabinet.

I think you are right Glorianny. Boris has his eye to the main chance and now isn’t it. As he says the time is not right. We haven’t seen the last of him by any means. I can’t relish the thought of Sunak either - there are things in his cupboard too! It’s like a barrel of rotten apples.

For those who missed this, I do hope that this caller does not, as he claims, speak for Conservatives. I take comfort that he seems only to speak for those who love England. He is clearly a one nation Conservative. As someone has posted, Sunak is not popular with everyone.

twitter.com/LBC/status/1583836182781517830?t=7ypOn6rvHik3R6Sjdkw10g&s=19

I believe he means all human rights laws which 'lefty lawyers' 'manipulate' to stop the Tories treating people badly.

I agree, Glorianny