So it is going to be Sunak

Here we have full employment, there are those that are unemployable, usually because they don’t turn up for work regularly and follow instructions.
An employer be it a care home, a garage or the NHS simply cannot have those on the workforce because it affects customers. They cannot even stack shelves because it causes havoc if it’s not done correctly.
A prime reason is drugs

Katie59 Was it drugs in the 1950s-60s? It certainly is neither alcohol nor drugs for my friend.

Many people in the unemployable group have undiagnosed autism and other similar problems, especially the older ones. This is why they do not turn up for work on time and cannot follow instructions and the same with stacking shelves.

You need some experience of those in this group. Some can progress with enough support and training, but that isn't there.

UK unemployment is at a 50 year low.

A Tory friend of mine thinks that there are too many people in this country.

The fact is that there are too many old folk and sick or disabled folk but not enough working folk.

We were supported by an army of EU citizens - doctors, nurses, care workers, fruit pickers, vets, butchers, abattoir workers, HGV drivers, and so many others who kept this country afloat until they were told by the brexit idiots thjat they were no longer welcome here.

How many of the employed are on zero hours contracts?

Probably quite a lot Maybe but not as many as there will be when all our EU laws are rescinded so there will be no such thing as workers rights.

M0nica

Katie59 Was it drugs in the 1950s-60s? It certainly is neither alcohol nor drugs for my friend.

Many people in the unemployable group have undiagnosed autism and other similar problems, especially the older ones. This is why they do not turn up for work on time and cannot follow instructions and the same with stacking shelves.

You need some experience of those in this group. Some can progress with enough support and training, but that isn't there.

I know somebody like that too MOnica. He's had goodness knows how many jobs, including voluntary ones, but he just can't keep a job. His problem isn't so much following instructions, but interacting with people. He can't do a customer facing role because he doesn't know how to deal with people and says tactless things and/or seems rude. He can't get on with colleagues, who are often lacking empathy and make fun of him for being a bit "odd" and he reacts inappropriately if a boss criticises his work. It would be possible for him to work (and work well), but any employer would need the patience of a saint and I'm afraid most don't. We really need somewhere like the old Remploy factories.

We really need somewhere like the old Remploy factories

Yes, and people employed in the Remploy factories knew they were doing a worthwhile job as well as providing a safe working environment for people who might find difficulty in other organisations.
Remploy still exists to help people into work.

However, some employers are better and more caring than others with better facilities for people who might need more help into employment. M&S works with Remploy, The Prince's Trust and Business in the Community in its Marks and Start programme.

varian the main reason we need so many young immigrants is because as longevity increases, birthrates are falling. The immigrants are replacing the children that our generation and those below us have not been having.

Callistemon I'm pretty sure his parents looked into M & S's "Kickstart", but it's only for 18-24 year olds, as are a number of other schemes because they receive government funding for this age group. The man I know is 40. His autism wasn't diagnosed until he was in his mid 20s and there was almost no help/support available.

Oh, a fairly limited age range then, growstuff.

He is still relatively young and has many years ahead when he could be working productively.

The problem is that many employers now want to squeeze the utmost work out of employees and need them to be fast and super-efficient.