Braverman's behaviour in parliament today proves nothing has changed.

Oh I remember Stoke Rochford. Both OH and myself attended many Conferences there in the past. Great use for it.

Albanian families who reached Britain by boat are among dozens being housed in a luxury Lincolnshire hotel that has been taken over by the Home Office as it struggles to cope with a spiralling migrant crisis.

Stoke Rochford Hall, a grand Victorian stately home outside Grantham, is usually home to glitzy weddings costing thousands of pounds, while rooms are as much as £200 a night.

When The Telegraph visited this week, however, it was instead home to dozens of migrant families.

The hotel, with its picturesque grounds in the rolling countryside south of Grantham, has been taken over since September, with multiple couples having their wedding plans cancelled. Copied from a paper not my own text in case you wondered.

How wonderful I bet some of our own UK citizens/oap would like a holiday there but couldn't afford it, you couldn't make it up could you.

Convicted Albanian murderer who was held at Manston processing centre for three weeks before being jailed for entering UK illegally is STILL allowed to continue his asylum application. Copied from one of the papers 😁

Yes you couldn't make it up and yes I blame the government and the so called human rights lawyers who are lining their pockets with UK tax payers money. We need to leave the ECHR. My only hope is Suella Braverman if Labour get in it will be open season with the dinghies.

In Kent there are no year 7 and 8/9 places at schools I think that's correct but I'm sure I will be corrected if wrong place for UK children the dinghy children have first pick for the schools how can this be right something needs to change.

7 million on 4 star hotels to house them all while UK OAPs are frightened to turn the heat on and out own war veterans sleep on the streets, its not right.

Fleurpepper

I'd love to meet you Maudi. You are impressive!

It would be more impressive if people credited their sources.

Amazingly, several idioms from World War II are still with us 75 years after the end of that great conflict. If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target is an old, WWII Army Air Force phrase. It means to take criticism (flak) from a position on a controversial topic (the target). Leaders are first to be criticized for their views and are susceptible to disparagement and abuse for what they say or do.

www.theleadermaker.com/if-youre-taking-flak/

Seems I'm right about Lib Dems and Labour then with regards to Suella Braverman they are running scared.

It'll be to avoid all that flax.

I'd love to meet you Maudi. You are impressive!

Yes so funny MaizieD haha

Amazingly, several idioms from World War II are still with us 75 years after the end of that great conflict.1 If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target is an old, WWII Army Air Force phrase. It means to take criticism (flak) from a position on a controversial topic (the target). Leaders are first to be criticized for their views and are susceptible to disparagement and abuse for what they say or do.

Seems I'm right about Lib Dems and Labour then with regards to Suella Braverman they are running scared.

MaizieD

Maudi

No Suella Braverman is hated by Labour and the Lib Dems because there is a chance she might succeed where others have failed to stop the small boats. If your getting flax you're over the target so they say.

Well you just hang on to that thought if it gives you comfort, Maudi. She must be able to weave herself a nice piece of linen by now...

No Suella Braverman is hated by Labour and the Lib Dems because there is a chance she might succeed where others have failed to stop the small boats. If your getting flax you're over the target so they say.

They need the small boats and the unfortunate people that they carry. Without them the ERG wouldn’t have got people to vote for brexit and at the present time they need them to take the blame for everything.

Maudi

Suella Braverman is only hated by the lefty Lib Dems and Labour to say she is a danger to our country is absolutely ridiculous, no the worry by the left is that she might actually succeed in stopping the small boats and if she did it would boost the Conservatives chances of winning the next election.

In your dreams, Maudi

Nothing she can do will stop the small boats unless she radically changes her tactics, and I think the tory destruction of just about everything that people value in the UK will guarantee that they lose the next election.

I don't need to rehearse what harm they've done over the past 12 years, it's been said often enough...

Maudi

Suella Braverman is only hated by the lefty Lib Dems and Labour to say she is a danger to our country is absolutely ridiculous, no the worry by the left is that she might actually succeed in stopping the small boats and if she did it would boost the Conservatives chances of winning the next election.

Braverman, nor anyone else will ever succeed in stopping the immigrants. It has been happening for ever.

What is different is the dreadful rhetoric and Tory incompetence

I try not to hate anybody, but Braverman tries my resolve.

I'm neither Lib Dem nor Labour.

Wonder why I "hate" her? I await the deep political analysis that will explain my opinion to me.

Suella Braverman is only hated by the lefty Lib Dems and Labour to say she is a danger to our country is absolutely ridiculous, no the worry by the left is that she might actually succeed in stopping the small boats and if she did it would boost the Conservatives chances of winning the next election.

Maudi

'Suella Braverman is hated with particular virulence not for any so-called national security breaches, but because as a successful woman of colour and a Tory she offends the assumptions many on the left make about race and victimhood.' copied from The Spectator

Well - what a load of rubbish! She is hated because she is in thrall to the far right and represents a danger to our country.

People only bring up her race because because of her determination to demonise those, who like her own parents, need sanctuary. The irony is only too clear.

Thats intriguing, wonder what they all are!

I think we are witnessing the ending of a long reign of one party, whatever present circs it seems to happen anyway. What I fear is what the state will be when its changed. I swing between wanting a GE v soon, but I fear people have little appetite for it, versus a change when things are even more dire as to picking up the pieces.

I’m sure Rory Stewart said in the podcast that the party were divided into 12 different factions.

Fleurpepper

Luckygirl3

Wyllow3

I'm really wondering, for Sunak is perfectly aware of the "Braverman affect: - what he thinks he's doing leaving her there, what's his game? Feed the far right enough rope to hang themselves?

if so, it's a very dangerous game..

I think his game is simple - she agrees to drop out of leadership race in return for a top job. He should have called her bluff once he was in.

They are playing politics with our lives. How dare they.

I am pretty sure it is a dirty deal with her secret Group, who have been pulling all the strings, the ERG.

Everyone accepts that is what has happened.

It keeps the far right wingers in power.

Power that about 30+ MPs have wielded, particularly since 2016.

It is a case of the tail wagging the dog, and every PM has been stymied by them since then.

Until the Tory party sorts this serious problem out we will continue to have crises after crises because the Tory party is so very divided.

A period out of office will focus their minds and is what the country badly needs.

Even dyed in the wool Tories would be doing their party a favour by voting them out of office for a period, as the country is in a death spiral which they can’t reverse as they are barely functioning as a government.

Yes, it's very dangerous. A secret group having access to the heart of government. I hope we get much more exposure of them. Like their connections to Donald Trump.

books.google.co.uk/books?id=ilyfDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT111&lpg=PT111&dq=ERG+connections+to+Trump&source=bl&ots=0SPXOjn7dy&sig=ACfU3U2dvdMx6z5-xaQg_Xek13QggTenbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMttzGwpX7AhXIRMAKHZ1rDLUQ6AF6BAgsEAM#v=onepage&q=ERG%20connections%20to%20Trump&f=false

Luckygirl3

Wyllow3

I'm really wondering, for Sunak is perfectly aware of the "Braverman affect: - what he thinks he's doing leaving her there, what's his game? Feed the far right enough rope to hang themselves?

if so, it's a very dangerous game..

I think his game is simple - she agrees to drop out of leadership race in return for a top job. He should have called her bluff once he was in.

They are playing politics with our lives. How dare they.

I am pretty sure it is a dirty deal with her secret Group, who have been pulling all the strings, the ERG.

Why is she "our only hope"?

Obi Wan Suella

But under her own terms, her own family were in the past "invaders".

Ie immigrants.

Maudi

Why should she be sacked because the lefty Lib Dems and Labour don't approve of her, well tough I think she is our only hope of stopping the small boats and I pray she succeeds but only time will tell.

Why is she "our only hope?

We are all concerned, for all kinds of reasons. But calling them invaders when there are vulnerable desperate refugees amongst them, including children, is frankly evil. do you really approve of her? Using the word "invasion"?

Please tell me - HOW does her calling people invaders help our distressed and fractured society?

'Suella Braverman is hated with particular virulence not for any so-called national security breaches, but because as a successful woman of colour and a Tory she offends the assumptions many on the left make about race and victimhood.' copied from The Spectator