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Braverman's behaviour in parliament today proves nothing has changed.

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Normandygirl Wed 26-Oct-22 22:14:18

Suella Braverman scuttling out of the commons today to avoid scrutiny is a clear indication that nothing has changed with the Tories. The question from Yvette Cooper was tabled in plenty of time so she has no excuses. The fact that she walked out in full view of the speaker doesn't enhance his reputation either.

volver Mon 31-Oct-22 12:53:21

🤣🤣🤣

Nannashirlz Mon 31-Oct-22 12:50:34

volver

Oh don't start.

She's no lady and she's not going to stop anything.

Oh you know her personal do eh no didn’t think so if you can’t see she’s a lady maybe try specsavers

Casdon Mon 31-Oct-22 12:49:27

I’ve just seen that she’s now admitted to sending herself emails 6 times! She’s either stupid or arrogant - or both.
news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-apologises-again-as-she-admits-sending-official-govt-documents-to-her-personal-email-on-six-occasions-12734938

volver Mon 31-Oct-22 12:45:09

Oh don't start.

She's no lady and she's not going to stop anything.

Nannashirlz Mon 31-Oct-22 12:43:14

Oh yes let’s all have a go at the lady that is going to stop the illegal immigrants coming here. While labour will open up our country and let them all in. And no I didn’t vote cons but anyone who can stop these ppl arriving in dinghies gets my vote.

LizzieDrip Mon 31-Oct-22 11:58:49

Thanks Volver. Frightening and depressing isn’t it!

volver Mon 31-Oct-22 11:54:08

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LizzieDrip Mon 31-Oct-22 11:52:04

It’s as if the people in power view these asylum seekers as less than human.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 31-Oct-22 11:48:15

MRSA now prevalent.

Their ignorance is beyond belief in those holding high office.

What on earth do they expect when people are crammed together without care or resources.

Their education must be abysmal.

LizzieDrip Mon 31-Oct-22 11:47:24

It's a well used political tactic to, first create a crisis and then present ourselves as the only ones who can solve it.

Yes Normandygirl it’s a tatic frequently used by cruel regimes throughout history. How sad!

volver Mon 31-Oct-22 11:47:20

I'm a pretty tough cookie but this whole thing makes me want to cry.

Casdon Mon 31-Oct-22 11:38:22

It’s not going the way they wanted it to surely - Diptheria outbreaks due to overcrowding are very bad optics, and there’s evidence directly implicating Braverman in the delays. My money is on her going before the end of this week.

Normandygirl Mon 31-Oct-22 11:30:39

I can't help suspecting that all these delays in processing are deliberate tactics from the Tories to emphasise and ramp up the rhetoric of the problems that immigrants are causing. They are not even trying to solve the problem because it is serving a useful purpose for the right wing. They want a daily diet of headlines spouting the eye watering costs, the overcrowding, the erupting violence to paint the picture of how threatened the UK has become because of the "illegal" boat people. It's a well used political tactic to, first create a crisis and then present ourselves as the only ones who can solve it.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 31-Oct-22 08:51:56

Good to listen to Sir Roger Gale condemn Braverman over the Marston immigration centre.

Some Tories have what it takes to be humane.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 31-Oct-22 06:08:26

So, now we see how Braverman’s dream of hate towards those fleeing war, hunger, torture and kept in overcrowded, disease ridden conditions, translates when processed by individuals who themselves are clearly vulnerable to being influenced by this hate.

They bomb the facility then kill themselves.

Hate breeds violence.

DaisyAnne Sun 30-Oct-22 21:21:08

The Opposition sometimes table a motion in the form of a humble address on Opposition days. A humble address is a message to the Queen. It’s used, among other things to call for papers from departments headed by a Secretary of State.

It can be debated, amended and voted on like any other motion.

Humble addresses, if agreed, are understood to be binding on the House.

That's as it was written. Obviously, it will now be the King.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Oct-22 18:10:37

I hit a paywall on the reference, "humble address" is new to me, can someone explain?

As the timeline becomes clearer of how she tried to cover up the email by asking the recipients to delete it, then only owning up when she found out the recipients had shopped her - well, just further disgusted.

Again, why is Rishi dragging his feet? Hopefully this L Party move will force the issue given hostility to her in her own party.

(I also didn't know some of the asylum matters mentioned above, thank you)

Normandygirl Sun 30-Oct-22 17:54:43

Ignoring all advice seems to be the Conservatives modus operandi it seems Volver
It's quite a clever move from Starmer as a defeat on the vote will do more damage to the Tories than a win.
Heads I win, tails you lose situation.

DiamondLily Sun 30-Oct-22 14:17:37

Well, Sunak may have to answer questions about her next week:

'Rishi Sunak is facing a crunch vote on the release of documents related to his controversial decision to appoint Suella Braverman as home secretary, as the prime minister comes under growing pressure.

Labour has vowed to table a “humble address” that could force the government to share the security and risk assessments regarding Ms Braverman’s admitted security lapse.

Sir Keir Starmer’s party has demanded that Mr Sunak clarifies what he knew about Ms Braverman sharing documents from her own email account, and whether she may have leaked market-sensitive"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-braverman-vote-documents-b2213501.html

volver Sun 30-Oct-22 13:31:03

More news about Braverman's place among the "compassionate" Conservatives.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/suella-braverman-ignored-advice-that-she-was-breaking-the-law-by-keeping-migrant/

Casdon Sat 29-Oct-22 20:01:35

There’s one obvious right wing candidate to replace her who was in the cabinet before - JRM. I suspect though that he’d rather be outside the circle p…..g in.

MayBee70 Sat 29-Oct-22 19:57:55

Vlad the Impaler?

varian Sat 29-Oct-22 18:10:48

I liked the cartoon of Pritti Patel advising Suella to be a bit more compassionate.

We thought that we could never have had a worse Home Secretary or a less compassionate Home Secretary than Pritti Patel - then along came Suella.

You could never have made it up. Who next???

growstuff Sat 29-Oct-22 13:12:54

Home Office staff unions claim there are staff shortages and antiquated IT systems.

Normandygirl Sat 29-Oct-22 12:49:59

Thats disgraceful Whitewavemark2
Does anyone understand why the Home Office are taking so long to process these people? I read that the fastest an application takes to " get to panel" is 400 days. After that it can take literally years to get a decision. No body explains why, is it staff shortages? Incompetence? Putin's fault?