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Jane71 Thu 03-Nov-22 09:52:55

I find the situation in NI so depressing, with the DUP refusing to engage with the Assembly until the NI Protocol is rescinded.
The agreement we had under the Brexit deal was the most hard line possible to appease the Tory right wing.
Now the reality of Brexit is starting to hit home, would joining the EU Customs Union be a way forward? My understanding is that it would enable tariff free trade, but allow control over migration.

nadateturbe Tue 03-Jan-23 19:55:08

Perhaps I was misinformed. I must check.

varian Tue 03-Jan-23 20:13:10

The best hope for Northern Ireland is for tribal voters who have mixed their politics and "religion" (ie nominal religion - not all are actually religous) to see sense and support the non-sectarian Alliance Party.

"Alliance was founded in 1970 with the objective of healing the bitter divisions in our community. We believe in a shared society, free from intimidation, discrimination and fear, where everyone is safe, can play their part and is treated fairly and with respect. We believe in a united community for Northern Ireland."

www.allianceparty.org/our_vision?locale=en

Fleurpepper Tue 03-Jan-23 21:15:05

nadateturbe

Of course! British citizens could enter EU freely. Didn't think of that. 🙄

We need to rejoin!

This is not the issue. The issue if that the UK has chosen to do away with EU regulations on food and safety, feeds, additives, antibiotics, husbandry, etc. That means that any foodstuff coming from mainland UK could find its way into EU foodchains. The EU is still very concerned ever since Mad Cow disease, which happened when the UK had same jurisdiction. BTW UK citizens are still not allowed to give blood in EU countries.

Oreo Tue 03-Jan-23 21:30:16

Read recently that Leo Varadkar, the teashop as my DP always wrongly calls him, has said mistakes were made by both sides with the Brexit arrangements and that the EU was probably too strict in it’s interpretations of the rules.That leads me to think there will be some give and take to resolve issues.
Fingers crossed.

nadateturbe Tue 03-Jan-23 23:13:39

Agree Oreo. Hope they sort it soon!

nadateturbe Tue 03-Jan-23 23:15:48

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"Varadkar, Ireland’s new prime minister, has admitted that Northern Ireland’s post-Brexit trading arrangements are “too strict”, fuelling hopes of a deal between the UK and the EU to end the dispute over the issue. He said a protocol in the UK’s Brexit agreement, which created a trade barrier between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, had made pro-UK unionists in the region feel less British and that a compromise was possible."

Could have been said sooner!

nadateturbe Tue 03-Jan-23 23:17:15

Sorry, Don't know why the first paragraph is printed.

Grantanow Wed 04-Jan-23 18:56:44

Johnson lied about the consequences of the protocol but the DUP will find any excuse not to have a Sinn Fein First Minister so I can't see the impasse being resolved by renegotiating the protocol.

varian Wed 04-Jan-23 19:29:38

I struggle to get my head round the logic of the DUP's position.

They campaigned for brexit - meaning the UK, including NI, would be out of the EU, whilst the Irish Republic remained in the EU.

This meant that there would have to be a border somewhere.

The Good Friday Agreement, which they had signed up to, stipulated that there could never be a border on the island of Ireland.

Where did they think that the border would be, if not in the Irish Sea, between NI and GB?

Fleurpepper Thu 05-Jan-23 18:06:22

Exactly Varian, makes NO sense at all.

nadateturbe Sun 08-Jan-23 14:39:16

Fleurpepper

Sadly bird flu has struck and there is a real shortage of chickens and poultry everywhere.

Fleurpepper my 2 children who live at opposite ends of England say there is no shortage. We have no chicken and very little turkey in the shops here in NI. So why aren't we getting delivery from GB?

Fleurpepper Sun 08-Jan-23 17:18:52

I do think you know the answer.

nadateturbe Sun 08-Jan-23 17:36:17

Well it's not bird flu.

Fleurpepper Sun 08-Jan-23 17:53:05

Perhaps not- Perhaps partly a knock on effect. When there is no surplus in one place due to disease, there is none to export.
Friends in the USA said they had a shortage lately, because they import a lot from Eastern Europe, where bird flu is raging.

But yes, other factors too. Often it is the combination of several factors that create a real shortage.