Scarf in Suffragette colours not allowed in Scottish Parliament.

volver

Sorry, I don't know what you mean Doodledog. Can you explain? Thanks.

Possibly, if you tell me what it is you need to be explained.

I've just got in, and the past page or so seems a bit disjointed.

Smileless2012

It isn't just about violence though is it Glorianny. It's about protecting the hard won rights of women. Protecting women from unfair competition in sports and as we've seen recently a beauty contest, where the prize for the winner was a female scholarship, and the winner was a trans woman called Brian.

The OP for this thread isn't about male violence. It's about a group of people, of women, being asked to remove an article of clothing because the colours are representative of the suffragette movement, while simultaneously allowing others to wear a lanyard that represents something else, in this case LGBTQ+.

Should they be able to wear that lanyard without fear of reprisals? Of course they should, just as those wearing the scarves should have been able to do.

An apology has been made but as far as I'm aware there's been no explanation as to why a member of staff thought it was reasonable and justified behaviour. The point is that for whatever reason, someone thought it was reasonable and justified, but didn't consider it to be reasonable or justified to do the same to those wearing rainbow lanyards.

Yes, this all has to do with carves volver and that although we constantly hear about equality for all, it appears that some are more equal than others.

I agree with you Smileless. I don't care that the apology has been made. I care that it happened in the first place and no explanation has been given.

Nobody bats at eyelid at other types of stripes being worn such as rainbows and other colour stripes that mean different things. I cannot see any reason why a suffragette scarf is disallowed when others are allowed free expression. It is not equality if women are punished for being women. (again)

I do not pretend to understand the ramifications concerning the matter debated in the Scottish Parliament as expressed on here, but as someone with no particular allegiance on this subject it does seem serious to me when members of the public are ejected from public seating and prevented from listening to a debate (my understanding), simply because of the clothing/colours they wear. No evidence of heckling or abuse.

Do you think single sex spaces as specified in the equality act are 'stomping on an oppressed group'
I find the phrase anti trans sisterhood deeply distasteful but each to their own.

I think the story is that the anti-trans sisterhood has taken to wearing suffragette colours in order to protest. A headline like this is a gift to the cause. I understand the woman who was asked to remove her scarf has received an apology. She got her publicity though, so that's a win. Should the oppressed really turn round and stomp on the next oppressed group. This is all very distasteful.

FarNorth

volver

If you can't understand the implications of an activist wearing the colours that have been co-opted by a group with fanatical views, into a Scottish Parliament Committee, what can I say?

That's not what happened, tho .

Isn't it?

Is it not?

volver

If you can't understand the implications of an activist wearing the colours that have been co-opted by a group with fanatical views, into a Scottish Parliament Committee, what can I say?

That's not what happened, tho .

volver

Cross post.

Perhaps everybody will read mine in conjunction with yours.

I hope they will.

If women do not stand up for each other’s rights then who will?

Cross post.

Perhaps everybody will read mine in conjunction with yours.

volver
I have no real clue if you or other posters are women or not, that’s how it is with social media.It’s hard to swallow that a woman would call those who champion women's rights as
fanatical though.

OK, no they are not fanatical.

Anybody who thinks others who must disagree with them about women's issues must be a man? That's fanatical.

You dont know if the NHS and the equality act are fanatical?

WTAF?

Actually, I used fanatical instead of another word I had thought of first.

Is calling my sex into question part of the strategy for undermining people who disagree with the views being championed here? Can you literally not see how insulting and childish that is? How it undermines your arguments? How it makes your look fanatical obsessive?

volver

If you can't understand the implications of an activist wearing the colours that have been co-opted by a group with fanatical views, into a Scottish Parliament Committee, what can I say?

Fanatical views? Feminists who worry that the trans lobby is going too far by eroding the rights of women?
Coming from a woman ( am presuming you are but am now wondering) calling those views ‘fanatical’ is a very odd thing.

I suppose it depends what colours they wear Galaxy.

I don't know. But I believe Obsolescence is.

(That may be worthy of deletion. Mea Culpa.)

The views expressed by gender critical feminists are present in the Cass report, exist in the equality act and have just been introduced as new NHS guidelines. Are these organisations/legislations fanatical?

Sorry, I don't know what you mean Doodledog. Can you explain? Thanks.

Do you mean a belief protected under law Volver?

Yammy

volver

Oh yes, sorry. I'd forgotten that only the chosen few are allowed to make points about gender.

(Yes, that's meant to be sarcasm)

As if we would forget coming from you. You should write a manual about how to be contentious and obnoxious , Somehow I don't think it would be a best seller.

Come on now Yammy. It's getting weird now.

If you can't understand the implications of an activist wearing the colours that have been co-opted by a group with fanatical views, into a Scottish Parliament Committee, what can I say?

volver

Oh yes, sorry. I'd forgotten that only the chosen few are allowed to make points about gender.

(Yes, that's meant to be sarcasm)

As if we would forget coming from you. You should write a manual about how to be contentious and obnoxious , Somehow I don't think it would be a best seller.

If you can’t see the difference between women carrying paint cans and glue guns into a meeting or wearing purple and green scarves, then what can I say?