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maddyone Fri 18-Nov-22 13:37:55

I’m just wondering what everyone thinks about the World Cup being held in Qatar. Today it has been announced that there will be no alcoholic drinks on sale in the grounds by order of the Qatari royal family. No alcohol doesn’t bother me (not that I’m going to the World Cup anyway) but surely if a country agrees to host this competition it should be able to fulfill the usual requirements. However some people have suggested that others should respect their culture. Well I certainly don’t respect the culture that uses capital punishment, makes being gay illegal, and has few rights for women.
And don’t get me started on David Beckham endorsing this country.
So what do you think?

Caleo Sun 20-Nov-22 20:48:19

I watched that programme about foreign building workers dying from kidney failure caused by being made to work in extreme heat, which is actually against the law of the land.

Chestnut Mon 21-Nov-22 00:27:21

I know absolutely zero about football, but surely there should be human right rules for countries taking part? So each country needs to adhere to rule 1, rule 2, rule 3 whatever they are. And if they can't sign on the dotted line then they can't take part.
Is that so difficult?

maddyone Mon 21-Nov-22 10:46:24

I’ve just listened to a Muslim lady on Jeremy Vine show this morning. She was ranting about it being Islamiphobia because people are quite rightly upset about the lack of human rights in Qatar. She claimed only three migrant workers have died in Qatar building the stadiums. Is this what Muslims really think? That it’s just Islamiphobia?

OnwardandUpward Mon 21-Nov-22 11:08:02

It's not only three. I know someone who worked out there and they could see apartment blocks being built from their window. They were really upset that the labourers working in the blazing sun died and were dragged away and replaced.

It's not Islamaphobia. It's human rights.

Mollygo Mon 21-Nov-22 11:53:37

And then I read on today’s news,

England and Wales have said their captains will not wear OneLove armbands at the World Cup in Qatar because they could face an instant yellow card for doing so.
England's Harry Kane and Wales' Gareth Bale were among players from a number of national teams that were due to wear the armbands as a gesture of solidarity with the LGBT community, in a country where homosexuality is punishable with up to three years in prison.
But the football associations from those along with six other nations today announced they were not willing to risk "sporting sanctions" in defence of the principle

I agree with all the reasons given on GN for why the tournament should never have been allowed to take place in Qatar.

Do you think the evils of Qatar will be less publicised if we win or given greater prominence if we lose?

Callistemon21 Mon 21-Nov-22 11:59:13

GrannyGravy13

Kim19

Think I heard somewhere that a brewery is one of their sponsors?

Yes Budweiser is one of the main sponsors.

Oh, the irony! 🍻

But money talks
All the time, everywhere.

Rosie51 Mon 21-Nov-22 12:01:37

But the football associations from those along with six other nations today announced they were not willing to risk "sporting sanctions" in defence of the principle.

So the principle was never that important then? So many hypocrites!

OnwardandUpward Mon 21-Nov-22 12:08:33

The voice of the poor is not heard. Those with money cover up things. Money does talk, but it's a lie.

Grantanow Mon 21-Nov-22 12:15:00

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

nanna8 Mon 21-Nov-22 12:22:46

There are so many countries that don’t consider human rights. If they were all ruled out then we would only be left with parts of Europe and parts of America which is just not practical. The hope is that they might learn from more compassionate countries but I wouldn’t hold my breath. The British aren’t exactly virtuous, come to that. They have a terrible history.

MayBee70 Mon 21-Nov-22 12:24:53

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I donty think it’s about the money: it’s the yellow card threat that’s caused the problem. FIFA are a disgrace.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Nov-22 13:24:31

It wasn’t just England and Wales that were intending to wear the one love armband, at least five other Countries Captains were going to.

FIFA declared that there wouldn’t be a fine for wearing it but a Yellow Card which would mean that players would be unavailable for games further into the competition.

Casdon Mon 21-Nov-22 13:30:57

MayBee70

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I donty think it’s about the money: it’s the yellow card threat that’s caused the problem. FIFA are a disgrace.

I don’t think it’s about the money, it’s about the game - teams want to do the best they can because it matters to them and their millions of followers.

MayBee70 Mon 21-Nov-22 14:09:32

Is there anything to stop the fans from wearing armbands etc? Or will they be arrested for it? I know it’s not going to happen but I’m having fantasies about England winning the tournament and doing a full on protest. Or maybe doing so if they reach a point where they’re going to be eliminated.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Nov-22 14:18:20

The Iranian Team were very brave not singing their National Anthem before the match in a protest against Khomeni’s brutal regime and his morality police.

I hope that their families at home will not be penalised.

Wyllow3 Mon 21-Nov-22 14:18:55

I just realised yesterday the difference between this World Cup and the last. Went for a walk and the way back is past lots of houses. I saw one festooned with England flags and actually even thought, "oh, what's that for?

Totally different from last time

I'm VERY glad to say.

Zoejory Mon 21-Nov-22 14:26:10

I think if we get into the next round there will probably be more flags around.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 21-Nov-22 14:44:05

🇮🇷

Smileless2012 Mon 21-Nov-22 16:05:59

Didn't watch the match but it looks as if Harry Kane wore his arm band.

Zoejory Mon 21-Nov-22 16:11:44

I did watch the match
I don't think Harry Kane wore the armband.

ayse Mon 21-Nov-22 16:14:02

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I agree

Casdon Mon 21-Nov-22 16:14:06

Smileless2012

Didn't watch the match but it looks as if Harry Kane wore his arm band.

No, he wore an alternative one that said No Discrimination.

MerylStreep Mon 21-Nov-22 16:25:02

nana8
The British aren’t exactly virtuous, come to that
Glasshouse’s spring to mind. At least we haven’t tried to wipe out our own citizens.

Smileless2012 Mon 21-Nov-22 16:26:55

Thanks Casdon, let's hope he doesn't get a yellow card for that one.

Casdon Mon 21-Nov-22 17:38:58

Smileless2012

Thanks Casdon, let's hope he doesn't get a yellow card for that one.

I bet there was some research into the wording, surely nobody could object to such a generic message. Good for Harry Kane for wearing it.