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Keir Starmer says he will abolish the House of Lords

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MaizieD Sun 20-Nov-22 10:45:10

And not before time!

We need a second chamber in Parliament for the scrutiny of proposed legislation, the Lords actually does a pretty good job of it on the whole, but the past few years have shown that it is not immune from manipulation by a corrupt PM.

I have mixed feelings about this. I think that life peerages based on expertise and experience brings perhaps more 'knowledge' to the Lords than there is in the Commons, which is good, but the present system of awarding peerages is too vulnerable to abuse.

OTOH, it will be difficult, but interesting, to work out how a second house should be constituted and how the members would be chosen; nomination? election? a mixture of both?

What do others think?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/19/keir-starmer-i-will-abolish-house-of-lords-to-restore-trust-in-politics?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Grantanow Mon 21-Nov-22 17:39:35

Were his lips moving?

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varian Mon 21-Nov-22 17:56:36

paddyann54

maddyone NOT every party ...the SNP dont send Mp's to the Lords because they dont believe in it .They also NEVER voted on England only matters long before Cameron came up with EVEL ,Shame the rest can vote on Scottish matters ,makes a mockery of democracy !

Our whole electoral system is a mockery of democracy, Paddyann

The SNP are ludicrously over-represented in the House of Commons. Because of the obscenely disproportionate undemocratic First Past The Post electoral system, the SNP got four times as many MPs as the Liberal Democrats on the basis of getting one third of the number of votes of the Liberal Democrats. In other words each LibDem MP represents twelve times more votes in the last GE than each SNP MP. The single Green Party MP represents an even larger number of votes.

We urgently need wholesale constitutional reform - and that includes the House of Lords but Keir Starmer should be following the decision of his party conference and prioritising changing our electoral system to Proportional Representation.

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