“Scottish government loses indyref2 court case”

Why bury the truth? Oh wait that's an SNP thing.

Oh OK.

So you think there's some truth in calling SNP supporters brainwashed benefits claimants? Either that or they need a brain transplant?

Well we know where we stand now, don't we?

I didn't say that. I merely pointed out the fact that the two highest areas of yes voters were in the two highest areas of benefit claimants.

Glasgow isn't the same as Strathclyde.

Also, I expect that Dundee being a "yes" city is more to do with its being a post-industrial city with severe social problems that have basically been ignored by successive WM governments. Not the fact that its got high numbers of benefits claimants.

Correlation isn't the same as causality.

Nevertheless it's a helluva coincidence!

So I went googling information about benefits in Scotland.

This is interesting.

Share of households receiving benefits in the United Kingdom in 2020/21, by region.

Is that not to do with how many households there actually are?
50% of 10 is a lot less than 50% of 100?
Happy to have you explain.

I wasn't talking about the UK as only Scotland had a vote in the last referendum. I suspect you know that though.

Mollygo - it depends how you cut it. There are also going to be questions about how many people per household, which benefits they get, how much they get...

And Aveline, I just though it was interesting that despite how often we are told how England subsidises Scotland, it probably doesn't...

Volver believing SNP propaganda again?

Aveline

Volver believing SNP propaganda again?

Yes, I believe that the SNP run Statista.

Rubydoop

I’m scared that the vote is for independence and wee nippy sweetly will repatriate me.

Can I ask what you think calling Nicola Sturgeon ‘ wee nippy sweetly (sic)’ adds to your argument? I see it , and, of course, ‘wee Jimmy Krankie’ used so often, and would like to know why people feel the need to do this.

I am reminded of the words of Baroness Thatcher.

volver

Mollygo - it depends how you cut it. There are also going to be questions about how many people per household, which benefits they get, how much they get...

And Aveline, I just though it was interesting that despite how often we are told how England subsidises Scotland, it probably doesn't...

Thanks Volver, so it’s another example of “statistics can be arranged to prove whatever the constructor of them wants.”

Mollygo

If the majority want independence, next time, there could either be a series of referenda until a majority of 2 is achieved.
Or it could be a bit like that song from Frozen
Let them go, let them go
Don’t hold them back anymore.

Since I’m not from Scotland, it’s not my decision to make. But I do wonder;

1. Will NS or SNP accept a second No vote? or demand yet another referendum until they get the result they want?
2. If the vote is yes, would the majority NS or SNP supports offer to hold another referendum for those who aren’t happy with the second outcome.

I see it said so often that Scots will demand a referendum until they get the result they want, but it is my understanding that there are two reasons. There is the fact that the ‘new powers’ promised pre referendum did not materialise, and that there has been a ‘ significant constitutional change’, namely that 68% of Scots voted to remain in the EU ( which, incidentally, Ruth Davidson said in 2014 could only be achieved by voting No), but were forced out by votes in the rest of the country.

But Daddima, on GN, I keep reading that X are desperate for a different outcome from last time and Y are desperate for the same result. If X get their wish, is that any fairer than the previous result?

So your answer to 1. would be yes or no.

So your answer to 2. would be yes or no.

I didn’t vote because I live in England. Although there are different views on this, I think it was up to those living in Scotland.
Family members who live in Scotland did vote, but they didn’t ask my opinion.

Daddima

Rubydoop

I’m scared that the vote is for independence and wee nippy sweetly will repatriate me.

Can I ask what you think calling Nicola Sturgeon ‘ wee nippy sweetly (sic)’ adds to your argument? I see it , and, of course, ‘wee Jimmy Krankie’ used so often, and would like to know why people feel the need to do this.

I am reminded of the words of Baroness Thatcher.

She has the unfortunate face of a Krankie Daddima and the manner of a nippy sweety, so people will always say so.
She isn’t universally liked!

Oreo your words are offensive and say more about you, than the First Minister.

The unfortunate face of a Krankie?

Holy moly.

Just like to ask please...

Are we supposed to call people we don't like names? World's changed since I as a girl...

Trump does😄

Conservative MPs are called all sorts of unflattering nicknames are they fair game?

Oreo

Daddima

Rubydoop

I’m scared that the vote is for independence and wee nippy sweetly will repatriate me.

Can I ask what you think calling Nicola Sturgeon ‘ wee nippy sweetly (sic)’ adds to your argument? I see it , and, of course, ‘wee Jimmy Krankie’ used so often, and would like to know why people feel the need to do this.

I am reminded of the words of Baroness Thatcher.

She has the unfortunate face of a Krankie Daddima and the manner of a nippy sweety, so people will always say so.
She isn’t universally liked!

‘She isn’t universally liked’. That is true, and needs no further explanation.

‘ The unfortunate face of a Krankie’ ? So, only people with ‘fortunate’ faces deserve respect? And exactly what is unfortunate about the Krankies’ faces? Lots of children ( and adults) would disagree.

‘ The manner of a nippy sweetie’? Can you explain what this manner is exactly?

You still haven’t explained what you think your use of the above adds to your argument.

volver

Just like to ask please...

Are we supposed to call people we don't like names? World's changed since I as a girl...

I do not like name calling by anyone of any age volver

It’s the people pleaser in me.

I feel a bit sorry for Janette Krankie

I forgot to add that people will certainly not ‘always say so’. I know many non SNP supporters who wouldn’t dream of saying such a thing.