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Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

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GagaJo Tue 29-Nov-22 20:02:25

So possibly NOT figments of fevered imaginations.

In a new interview with Channel 4 News, the former head of counterterrorism for the Metropolitan Police said that there were genuine threats to the Duchess of Sussex's life while she lived in the U.K.

Neil Basu opened up about the alarming allegations amid his resignation as Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations for the Met Police in an interview released Tuesday. Basu, 54, is leaving the force after 30 years, during which he earned the Queen's Police Medal for distinguished service and served as the senior-most officer for the counterterrorism unit of the Met Police starting in March 2018 — two months before Meghan and Prince Harry's royal wedding.

"You were in charge of royal protection. How would you characterize the threats that Meghan and Harry received?" journalist Cathy Newman asked in a quick clip shared on Twitter.

"Well, disgusting and very real," Basu replied, calling extreme right-wing terrorism the "fast-growing threat" to the country.

uk.news.yahoo.com/meghan-markle-faced-disgusting-very-194441457.html

Fleurpepper Sun 11-Dec-22 21:25:53

Excellent post Iam64.

GagaJo Sun 11-Dec-22 22:02:08

Fleurpepper

GagaJo

You lot are the ones who keep banging in about them. You'll be putting money in their pockets for years.

Exactly- 1000s are watching just for the joy and pleasure of being 'offended' - knowing full well that each watch puts money in their pocket!

Why are 'you' (one) watching- what is your aim?

Disgusted, from Tunbridge.

I'm going to watch out of nosiness. I suspect I'll be bored very quickly though. And my stamina for people (other than my students and even there I'm limited) going on about their feelings isn't great, so I don't think I'll get through all 6.

Fleurpepper Sun 11-Dec-22 22:12:25

In the meantime

In the last 24 hours The Daily Mail nas published 65 articles about Harry and Meghan and precisely ZERO, NOUGHT, NADA, NEN articles about Michelle Mone.

And that good people is a huge part of the problem in Britain today. People running round like nodding Pavlovian dogs getting up in arms about what they are told to.

Your head is owned by billionaires who are laughing at you.! (borrowed from elsewhere)

MawtheMerrier Sun 11-Dec-22 22:21:38

Disgusted, from Tunbridge
No.
The meme is generally accepted to be
“Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.”

Legend has it that the term was first used in the early 1960’s, when a cub reporter on a now defunct local newspaper, devoid of interesting copy for the letters page, submitted two letters of complaints themselves, and signed them “Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells “.

Somehow the phrase was taken up by Private Eye and the BBC radio programme of the time ‘I’m Sorry I’ll Read that Again’ and the town was stereotyped in the public imagination.

Perhaps you were thinking of Tonbridge also in Kent where the population are rarely disgusted

imaround Mon 12-Dec-22 02:55:13

It amuses me that, if I support H & M, I must hate the RF and vice versa. The black & white thinking is really something. I am not sure how a person can hate someone they do not know.

I agree with iam64 100%

Meghan's father currently has a restraining order against him for threatening to kill a journalist.

He sold stories to the tabloids. (All of her other friends and family chose not to, even though they were offered large sums of money.)

He has said on interviews that he was going to continue to harass her through the press until she talked to him.

Samantha did not raise her own children (though says she raised Meghan). She has no contact with her children now because of her actions.

But hey, because the bible tells us, we should honor our mother & father, so that makes all this behavior excusable and Meghan and Harry are horrible people for keeping the grandkids away.

Mamie Mon 12-Dec-22 04:42:01

MawtheMerrier I have read reports of "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" appearing in publications back as far as the 1870s.
It is a town I know very well and when I see reference to it I usually point out that it was the only town in Kent that voted Remain.
Bit of a lazy stereotype these days Fleurpepper.

Ailidh Mon 12-Dec-22 06:25:26

I've always thought of it as "Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells".

Iam64 Mon 12-Dec-22 08:21:04

your head is owned by billionaires who are laughing at you

I appreciate your agreement with my post on h and M Fleurpepper but not this unpleasant negative generalisation of the population of the UK.

GagaJo Mon 12-Dec-22 09:20:36

I think it's pretty accurate. We fall for it all of the time.

They feed us stories and block others. They don't want us to focus on Tory corruption and theft, because the Tories are their favoured political party (due to the nepotism between them). They want us hating a couple of insignificant individuals who live on the other side of the world.

merlotgran Mon 12-Dec-22 09:32:46

In the last 24 hours The Daily Mail nas published 65 articles about Harry and Meghan

You counted them? 😮😮

MawtheMerrier Mon 12-Dec-22 09:34:25

merlotgran

^In the last 24 hours The Daily Mail nas published 65 articles about Harry and Meghan^

You counted them? 😮😮

And I am happy to say I have not read a single syllable of any of them gringrin

Fleurpepper Mon 12-Dec-22 11:46:26

Mamie

MawtheMerrier I have read reports of "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" appearing in publications back as far as the 1870s.
It is a town I know very well and when I see reference to it I usually point out that it was the only town in Kent that voted Remain.
Bit of a lazy stereotype these days Fleurpepper.

A 'joke' - but I do think in this instance, it is pretty accurate of a certain mindset. I was there a couple of weeks ago, and we both laughed that the stereotype seemed, well, quite appropriate.

No I have not read ANY of them. I do buy the DM from time to time to see just how awful it is (it is!) - but have not done since the H&M Netflix, which I have not watched. But I trust the source.

Mamie Mon 12-Dec-22 17:30:02

Fleurpepper TW is a far more socially diverse town than you might think on a quick visit. There are some very wealthy areas and there are certainly plenty of senior civil servants, hospital consultants, people who work in the City in the demographic.
Would be interested in what you think the "certain mindset" would be. Voting Remain and getting rid of the Tory controlled Council perhaps?

faye17 Mon 12-Dec-22 18:48:58

faye17

32icanhandthemback

Volver you have completely forgotten that she must have recorded the conversation because how would she remember what was said. Maybe being black means you can't remember things too! I am horrified at the way this conversation has turned out and hat's off to you for standing your ground against this racism
Bravo
Where are the moderators now?

Yesterday 17:39icanhandthemback

Perhaps they understand irony, faye17.

I was referring to the amount of negativity Volver seems to get on GN without any intervention from the moderators.
I have no problem understanding irony.
What I don't understand is the need of many gransnetters to respond curtly and negatively to any opinion that differs from theirs.

varian Mon 12-Dec-22 19:17:58

Not a fan, or even remotely interested in H & M, but I can't help thinking that no-one so heavily targeted by the Daily Mail hate machine cannot be all bad.

icanhandthemback Mon 12-Dec-22 19:23:09

faye17

faye17

32icanhandthemback

Volver you have completely forgotten that she must have recorded the conversation because how would she remember what was said. Maybe being black means you can't remember things too! I am horrified at the way this conversation has turned out and hat's off to you for standing your ground against this racism
Bravo
Where are the moderators now?

Yesterday 17:39icanhandthemback

Perhaps they understand irony, faye17.

I was referring to the amount of negativity Volver seems to get on GN without any intervention from the moderators.
I have no problem understanding irony.
What I don't understand is the need of many gransnetters to respond curtly and negatively to any opinion that differs from theirs.

I wasn't being negative with Volver. I actually think much the same as Volver on this thread. That's why I commented with the irony you obviously didn't recognise on this occasion. grin Sorry I didn't have time to write more yesterday but I was having a hectic time.

Gingersnapschap Mon 12-Dec-22 19:23:48

I am floored that anyone can think that defending Thomas Markle is a decent thing to do. Who really believes anyone with a shred of morality would sell private letters their child sent to them to the press? What kind of human being justifies or defends that? I would forever cut ties with my parents for doing something so evil. The comments defending this vile, user, extortionist of a man make me sorry for the children of people who think what he did was ok. Toxic, toxic, toxic.

And the so-called half siblings who haven’t ever had a real relationship with her also profiteering and fame-chasing are equally low. Completely indecent people. Some people have weird ideas of what family is. Blood alone does not entitle anyone to a relationship, nor unlimited forgiveness. For those who do not understand that, I have pity. Such a person is likely to mistreat and betray their own family and then wonder why your relatives cut you off. Thomas Markle and his other children are toxic leeches and I find it really pathetic that they are desperate enough to use her as a way to get money and attention.

Smileless2012 Mon 12-Dec-22 19:29:39

I find it really pathetic that H & M are desperate enough to use the RF, and their titles as a way to get money and attention, and hope that H's aware that blood alone doesn't entitle anyone to a relationship or unlimited forgiveness.

I was going to include unlimited financial support but suspect that that is at least something H has been made aware of.

VioletSky Mon 12-Dec-22 19:31:25

Thomas Markle is awful and so is the sister

Gingersnapschap Mon 12-Dec-22 19:37:58

Well it doesn’t look like Harry is seeking a relationship or forgiveness, so there’s that. And his money, much of which I understand was inherited already from both the RF and his mother, would probably still be there whether he spoke about the RF today or never again. Despite the wishful thinking of those who defend toxics like Thomas Markle and his maladjusted other children, H&M could probably never do another interview or write another book and their children would still be well off. They’d still be famous too, as they clearly have a home in the heads of many. The people that pay the most attention to them are the ones who profess to hate them the most.

Gingersnapschap Mon 12-Dec-22 19:41:32

Wholeheartedly agree VS. They’re a special type of low class. The nerve of anyone to think she should be forced into having a relationship with these types of people. I wouldn’t let him within 100 ft of my children if he were the biological grandfather. He doesn’t deserve to look those children in the eyes.

Ilovecheese Mon 12-Dec-22 19:46:09

You might be getting a bit of an unbalanced view of the feelings of the country as a whole Gingersnapchap Although some posters on Gransnet feel very strongly indeed. Most of the rest of us Brits are not really invested enough to be bothered one way or the other.

Sparklefizz Mon 12-Dec-22 19:48:28

My goodness Gingersnapschap, you have powerful angry feelings about the Markles just as some of us in Britain have powerful feelings (which you have criticised and called "unhinged") about what Harry and Meghan have said. Your anger jumps off the page shock

Gingersnapschap Mon 12-Dec-22 19:55:46

Sparklefizz

My goodness Gingersnapschap, you have powerful angry feelings about the Markles just as some of us in Britain have powerful feelings (which you have criticised and called "unhinged") about what Harry and Meghan have said. Your anger jumps off the page shock

Hyperbole doesn’t help me see your point of view better, fyi.

Thomas Markle, by his own admission, betrayed his daughter. There is a huge difference between being disgusted by behavior that the offender themselves admits was wrong, and having an hateful opinion based on two disputed points of view where the “offender” is very clearly disputed. Still, you haven’t seen me defend or downplay harassment or death threats toward him. If you are trying to falsely equate my views of Thomas Markle and the extremist views if H&M’s haters, all I can say is A Swing and a Miss.

Smileless2012 Mon 12-Dec-22 19:58:15

I think the criticism of H & M looks pretty tame by comparison Sparklefizz.