Buckingham Palace Aide resigns

The "Charity Girl" was a woman who has a name - Ngozi Fulani - and a job that is worthy of respect.

What was said was wrong and the tone was most unpleasant but Ngosi was dressed in a very 'African' type outfit. Not victim blaming, just saying if I had seen her I would have assumed she was African, though I wouldn't have gone on and on.

rubysong

What was said was wrong and the tone was most unpleasant but Ngosi was dressed in a very 'African' type outfit. Not victim blaming, just saying if I had seen her I would have assumed she was African, though I wouldn't have gone on and on.

Oh my, just when you think this thread can’t deteriorate any further, it does. Assumptions galore, assuming someone is African because they’re wearing a very “African” type outfit.

and on we go...

Don't wear your own choice of clothes ladies, you'll just get what's coming to you....

I went to college with a girl with a German surname, about which she was often asked. She always replied that her Dad was indeed German and had been a prisoner of war working on her grandparents farm in Yorkshire, where he had met her mother. My BF has an unusual surname, and if she books for us to go anywhere in her name, again, she has been asked its origin. She is more than happy to say that her DF was Polish. It used to happen a lot before chip and pin, when her signature had to be compared with that on her credit card.

However, I cannot say anything to defend Susan Hussey, whose behaviour was simply out of order.

Scuse me volver, I’m not a lady, I’m a woman. Otherwise, yes I agree with you, watch what you wear girls )Women I mean)

Yes, quite right Iam64!! Me too.

girls/women/ladies... 😕

Quines!!

rubysong 👍🏻

You know Iam64 if a woman is dressed as an African woman, large colourful headband type thing, braids, baggy colourful dress and beads at a gathering it is reasonable to think she’s African.
Once the palace aide was told that she was British then as rubysong says that subject should be dropped.
The aide was very wrong to press things and make the guest uncomfortable and feel unwanted and that’s what was wrong.
The aide should have then asked about her work with the charity instead.

Ngoni Fulani is the woman’s name. Calling her a “charity girl” is very demeaning and disrespectful.

Ngosi

It’s already been said Silvergirl

varian

The lady who tried to interrogate the charity worker in what would seem to most of us as harassing and pretty racist way is an 83 year old member of the priveledged aristocracy whose attitudes not moved with the times. I would describe her as "unreconstructed".

I am quite sure that she was probably unaware of having caused any offence. It is possibly time she was pensioned off from whatever role she might have in the royal household.

This!

Aveline

'honorary role' so presumably one of Camilla's new companions or 'ladies of the household'?

No, she's not Camilla's gang she is one of the late Queens ladies in waiting and close confidante and godmother to I think prince William. She has resigned.

Oreo

rubysong 👍🏻

You know Iam64 if a woman is dressed as an African woman, large colourful headband type thing, braids, baggy colourful dress and beads at a gathering it is reasonable to think she’s African.
Once the palace aide was told that she was British then as rubysong says that subject should be dropped.
The aide was very wrong to press things and make the guest uncomfortable and feel unwanted and that’s what was wrong.
The aide should have then asked about her work with the charity instead.

Well said I agree with you.

But she wasn't dressed as an "African woman"!

She had braids and a headband, but she doesn't appear to be wearing a baggy, colourful dress.

Aveline

Wasn't it lucky that someone was on hand to transcribe the conversation as it happened?
As previously stated, I'm not saying it was right in the light of current day thinking but it was understandable.
Now, what do you lot think should be done to Lady Susan? Could she be made more miserable? I doubt it.

I understand she's been sent to The Tower.

Her fate is to be decided by Gransnetters.

Callistemon 😂

Off with her head!

Lady Susan ( not Ms Hussey ) could take a lesson from my dentist a, a young woman whose parents came over with many thousands of Ugandan Asians under Idi Amin . While she and her dental nurse (who is I thought possibly mixed race) had their fists in my mouth , I heard them discussing “Mums cooking” and Sunday lunches, and my dentist asked “What’s your ethnic heritage Naomi?” And I thought “Ah, that’s the acceptable way to enquire” and made a mental note.
Naomi was, it seems part Kenyan, part Irish and part Jamaican- an interesting mix I imagine there must be some tasty Sunday lunches at her Mum’s!

growstuff

LadyHonoriaDedlock

It's something a lot of non-white people have experienced.

"Where are you from?"

"London"

"No, where are you really from?"

"I'm really from Shepherds Bush^

Lenny Henry: “Enoch Powell says he wants to give me £1,000 to go back to where I came from. Which is great, because it’s only 20 pence on the bus from here to Dudley.”

You can take the boy out of Dudley but you can't take Dudley out of the boy!
😁

If a man had been at the event wearing a kilt, a black velvet short jacket, a sporran and argyll socks would it have been unreasonable to think that he was from the Scottish branch of some organisation?

Would a stetson and high boots immediately suggest that perhaps the wearer was more at home riding the range in the Lone Star State?

If another man wore a loin-cloth and several heavy arm bangles, with tattoos on his cheeks and a blanket over his shoulders, would it have been a mistake to think it likely that he came from Africa, and had possibly arrived that day as a representative of an organisation in that continent?

When we wear the national dress of a country, or clothes which are instantly recognisable as originating in a specific area, it is usually because we feel a connection with that place - unless it is a fancy-dress party.

rubysong

What was said was wrong and the tone was most unpleasant but Ngosi was dressed in a very 'African' type outfit. Not victim blaming, just saying if I had seen her I would have assumed she was African, though I wouldn't have gone on and on.

Was she? Her outfit didn't look very "African" in the photo I've seen.

Baggs

Bloody Hell!! How utterly shocking!

No it isn't. It's incredibly sad and we should obviously not treat people in the way this elderly lady treated the visitor. However, I don't see the visitor making any allowance for the age and culture of the elderly lady either.

Two acts of disrespect do not make a respectful one. That ship sailed sadly.

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

Well, we're getting a nice list of unreconstructed posters this evening, aren't we?

My husband wears the kilt. He's "really" from Kent.