Racism as a factor in violence against females

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"Boys will be boys" - how many times have we heard it?

No, I don't think racism is a factor at all. It all boils down to the general attitude of so many men towards women. They seem to blame us for all their problems.
Of course, some will bring racism into everything, it's become an obsession with many.

I agree. Misogyny is at the bottom of VAWAG, and whereas someone who thinks like that and ‘backs up’ his thinking with violence is quite likely to also be racist and homophobic, one of those prejudices doesn’t drive the others. They are all borne of a mindset that despises difference, sees straight white men as ‘naturally’ superior and thinks that violence is the way to deal with frustration or insubordination.

If you had been raped you would think very,very hard before seeking police help. You would have to go through it all again in court . Just not what you would ever want to do. Then there is the possibility of the rapist hiring an expensive lawyer and getting off scot free. No, definitely something you would think twice about.

Hi, I have noticed that women are prescribed hormone treatment to address problems with for menopause, PMS, for example. This is overwhelmingly NOT because they are at risk of murdering or raping other people. So how does it happen that male violence against women, including rape and murder, is not addressed with hormonal treatment?

I suppose because women getting HRT etc are aware that they have problems, and are seeking help, whereas violent men might see their behaviour as normal, or caused by the women in their lives. There are real ethical issues with medicating people against their will, so unless someone went to a doctor and asked for hormone treatment (which many would see as chemical castration) it's unlikely to happen.

How many of the 'Rotherham' girls were non-white? None. Their abusers kept away from 'their' community and went for 'white trash'. They and their parents were further abused by a system that claimed they deserved what happened.

Hi Doodledog, of course medicating against people's will is an ethical issue. However, under the Mental Health Act, there are allowances for this under some circumstances. Also, it is very serious if violent people, mostly men, are not aware they have problems or see their behaviour as normal or caused by others, as you suggest. This does not seem logical or reasonable to me. I ask myself why there is not more public focus on understanding and tackling the problems that some men have leading to criminal behaviour including rape and murder.

The ends don't always justify the means, though. Maybe in this case they might; but we can't really allow forced medication of unwilling people. Particularly if they have yet to offend.

Discrimination race, gendar, colour are all basically an us and them attitude to people where "us" matter and "them" don't and "them" can be exploited and abused. So it is not surprising that there is connection between raceism and sexism. All forms of discrimination needs to be stopped no matter how small or what direction it is in.

I couldn't agree more, doodledog that enforced medication is basically unacceptable. Nonetheless, it seems logical and reasonable that the vast majority of violent men do know that what they are doing is wrong and harmful, even lethal. Therefore, why would they refuse help to address their problem and protect victims? To suggest otherwise is insulting towards most men. And just because some people might refuse treatment, does that mean it should not be offered if effective?

Perhaps because it is often in the interests of authority than men should be violent, if they are needed to fight wars.

Jackiest

Discrimination race, gendar, colour are all basically an us and them attitude to people where "us" matter and "them" don't and "them" can be exploited and abused. So it is not surprising that there is connection between raceism and sexism. All forms of discrimination needs to be stopped no matter how small or what direction it is in.

Yup

We won't end violence against women until we end all forms of violence.

This means women taking responsibility for how we talk about race as well as other minority groups

A lot if violence is from within a relationship. A lot of cultures tolerate violence towards women, only through education will the victims find the courage to leave.

The men that are violent probably won't listen to women but may listen to men so we really need to get men on our side and not allinate them by treating all men as if they are a danger or by discriminating against them.

That's an excellent point Jackiest, peer pressure can be extremely influential.