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Soft power

(58 Posts)
Sunny82z Mon 05-Dec-22 22:26:21

While I am not mad about the Royal family, they do give the Country a degree of soft power around the World and to a degree keep the countries of the commonwealth onside. So I am bothered by Harry and Megan appearing to want to do all they can to destroy the monarchy for money. It is up to us the subjects to decide whether we do or don't what a monarchy or a republic not a third rate actress who couldn't make in Hollywood and a very dim Prince.

icanhandthemback Sun 11-Dec-22 09:46:27

Grantanow

Expected by whom, icanhandthemback?

Netflix.

Grantanow Sun 11-Dec-22 08:41:54

Expected by whom, icanhandthemback?

icanhandthemback Wed 07-Dec-22 20:01:48

I think you'll find that images in the adverts can be symbolic, words in the actual programme are expected to be believed, Grantanow.

Grannygravy13, the news I listened to this morning said one person shouted out about how do you feel about destroying the Royal Family. If that is the case, it is hardly the majority feeling.

Grantanow Wed 07-Dec-22 15:50:01

If - as Netflix claims - the fake images were not meant to be taken literally does that mean what the ex-Royals say isn't meant to be taken literally either?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 07-Dec-22 15:26:45

volver

Casdon

Whitewavemark2

Soft power?

Perhaps at one time.

But now - not so much.

This star is slowly waning into oblivion.

I think you’re right. America seems to be losing interest, the Netflix series hasn’t been mentioned on CNN which I read each day, or if it has it hasn’t made the headlines at all. I suppose there’s only so much to say, and with no contact likely from now on, it will burn out for lack of new material.

I read WWM2's post as referring to the whole RF.

Maybe she'll be able to clarify for us.

Yes the whole of the RF.

The queens death will, I think, be seen as the catalyse for the waning of the RF.

Blossoming Wed 07-Dec-22 14:25:47

So when is the referendum?

tickingbird Wed 07-Dec-22 13:21:57

Volver

We post things that build on our prejudices. All of us.

There’s that self awareness again.

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 10:14:55

That's your choice ^GG13*, of course.

I'm sure that you appreciate that posting selected information about anybody in any thread contributes to the perception of that public person.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Dec-22 10:12:32

Another thread that I will not bother to contribute to anymore…

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 09:55:46

Oh OK.

It was a completely random comment and didn't contribute to the demonisation of M&H and trashing of their work, then. Or reinforce the negative attitudes shown towards them by some many posters on here.

(Another sarcastic emoji alert)

We post things that build on our prejudices. All of us.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Dec-22 09:43:37

volver

Agreed.

(Didn't know about the IRA thing. There's the Boston Tea Party though.)

So a minority of the population reacting badly and heckling doesn't really tell us anything about the whole population's attitude to something.

Jeezy peeps volver

I was scrolling Twitter (wasting time before my gym class) I saw the clip (from several angles and different people)

As GN is obsessed with The Sussexes I decided to post what I had seen.

(Disclaimer, I am a royalist, I haven’t got an anti M & H agenda I do dislike washing ones dirty laundry in public which seems all the rage in the 21stC)

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 09:37:56

Agreed.

(Didn't know about the IRA thing. There's the Boston Tea Party though.)

So a minority of the population reacting badly and heckling doesn't really tell us anything about the whole population's attitude to something.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Dec-22 09:35:02

volver

GrannyGravy13

When The Sussexes arrived at the event they were heckled ^how do you feel about destroying the Royal Family^

And the Waleses didn't get the warmest of receptions at the Boston basketball game.

Your turn.

I was not commenting on The Prince & Princess of Wales.

But here goes, Boston has never been overly friendly to the U.K. royal family, it was pointed out in the news that it has been in the past known for funding the IRA, and that is where their sympathies lay.

(source ITV News)

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 09:30:56

GrannyGravy13

When The Sussexes arrived at the event they were heckled ^how do you feel about destroying the Royal Family^

And the Waleses didn't get the warmest of receptions at the Boston basketball game.

Your turn.

Casdon Wed 07-Dec-22 09:25:50

volver

I wouldn't argue with that, but I think WWM2 was making a more general point about the soft power that the RF used to wield but no longer does.

WWM2, where are you? 🙂

She’s probably out doing something useful instead of wasting time on Gransnet rather than cleaning the utility room out like I am!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 07-Dec-22 09:25:12

When The Sussexes arrived at the event they were heckled how do you feel about destroying the Royal Family

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 09:23:43

I wouldn't argue with that, but I think WWM2 was making a more general point about the soft power that the RF used to wield but no longer does.

WWM2, where are you? 🙂

Casdon Wed 07-Dec-22 09:21:40

I do stick by what I said though volver, that wasn’t a headlining article, and they are no longer making the front pages in the USA on an almost daily basis as they did, the fatigue has set in. It will be interesting to see what the reaction to the Netflix production is a few episodes in.

Lucca Wed 07-Dec-22 09:18:41

Katie59

MM is of course a “Actor” actresses were abolished years ago

Indeed, which is why I used the OPs word in the quite and “actor” in my post.

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 09:11:39

abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/gma-prince-harry-meghan-receive-ripple-hope-award/story?id=94579198

Those Americans are soooo fed up with them.

Zelensky got one as well. Isn't he just a third-rate actor who couldn't make it in Hollywood? (sarcasm alert)

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 07:45:54

Casdon

Whitewavemark2

Soft power?

Perhaps at one time.

But now - not so much.

This star is slowly waning into oblivion.

I think you’re right. America seems to be losing interest, the Netflix series hasn’t been mentioned on CNN which I read each day, or if it has it hasn’t made the headlines at all. I suppose there’s only so much to say, and with no contact likely from now on, it will burn out for lack of new material.

I read WWM2's post as referring to the whole RF.

Maybe she'll be able to clarify for us.

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 07:42:26

Yes. I did. confused

nanna8 Wed 07-Dec-22 07:34:45

Did anyone mention NgozibFulani ? I thought that was another thread .

volver Wed 07-Dec-22 07:32:21

You know what the implication of "actress" used to be. Some people still think it's a put-down, it seems.

Has anyone done an analysis of those who are vocal about how bad M&H are, and those who think Ngozi Fulani brought it on herself and was trying to cause trouble?

That Venn diagram is close to a circle, I suspect.

Casdon Wed 07-Dec-22 07:31:32

Whitewavemark2

Soft power?

Perhaps at one time.

But now - not so much.

This star is slowly waning into oblivion.

I think you’re right. America seems to be losing interest, the Netflix series hasn’t been mentioned on CNN which I read each day, or if it has it hasn’t made the headlines at all. I suppose there’s only so much to say, and with no contact likely from now on, it will burn out for lack of new material.