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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

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Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

Callistemon21 Sat 07-Jan-23 11:21:34

It certainly was possible until the Bill received Royal Assent.

Callistemon21 Sat 07-Jan-23 11:18:38

But there have been two posters today wondering if he'll be prosecuted GSM.

My mistake for wondering if it was possible after another poster queried this.

"The Overseas Operations (Service Personnel and Veterans) Act 2021 (“the Act”) received Royal Assent on 29 April 2021 and its substantive provisions came into force on 30 June 2021"

Smileless2012 Sat 07-Jan-23 11:13:18

I think you'll find if you read the posts volver that some are wondering if he'll be prosecuted for saying how many he killed, not for the fact that he did kill.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-Jan-23 11:06:54

I wouldn’t disagree with your theory volver - and posters suggesting that H may be prosecuted tend to prove it.

Witzend Sat 07-Jan-23 11:04:15

MerylStreep

Who’s to advise Harry? He’s surrounded himself with F@&kwits.

He’s surrounded himself with people bent on making loadsamoney out of him, more like.

volver Sat 07-Jan-23 10:55:37

Germanshepherdsmum

I’m sure we all knew already that H had killed in Afghanistan, volver. I remember him being interviewed after his return, being asked the question and giving a rather fudged response. It’s what our armed forces are trained to do and I find nothing shocking about it, nor should anyone else. H flew an Apache gunship - the clue’s in the name. Those taken to court for killing during war acted outside the rules of engagement and there’s no suggestion that H acted illegally. Of course he won’t be prosecuted. I do however find it shocking that someone in his position, a senior if non-working member of the RF, should be so utterly stupid as to include it in his wretched booky wooky. The targets on his back and those of his family carry a far greater prize than those on the backs of soldiers of far lesser profile who choose to publicise what they did (unwisely imo).

Thanks for the welcome back!

But there have been two posters today wondering if he'll be prosecuted GSM.

I've got this theory now, that people can feel free to disagree with of course. Many of those shouting loudly about the betrayal of the royal family, and how bad all the things are that M&H say, don't actually have a scooby about how the world works.

Rosina Sat 07-Jan-23 10:50:33

Faith, not race.

Rosina Sat 07-Jan-23 10:49:32

If Harry was concerned about security, I am left amazed at his revelations. This book - ghost written it seems - has had to pass scrutiny by said writer, editors, publishers, and yet it would appear nobody has taken him to one side and reminded him that the Taliban promised to send him back to his Grandmother piece by piece when he entered the war zone. Salman Rushdie, after all these years, has finally paid the price for his writings, having aggravated incredibly sensitive and fanatical people of the race that he was born into. Perhaps on reflection he should have known better. Harry certainly should - and how will these outpourings affect him, his wife and above all his innocent children and their future?

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-Jan-23 10:41:49

I’m sure we all knew already that H had killed in Afghanistan, volver. I remember him being interviewed after his return, being asked the question and giving a rather fudged response. It’s what our armed forces are trained to do and I find nothing shocking about it, nor should anyone else. H flew an Apache gunship - the clue’s in the name. Those taken to court for killing during war acted outside the rules of engagement and there’s no suggestion that H acted illegally. Of course he won’t be prosecuted. I do however find it shocking that someone in his position, a senior if non-working member of the RF, should be so utterly stupid as to include it in his wretched booky wooky. The targets on his back and those of his family carry a far greater prize than those on the backs of soldiers of far lesser profile who choose to publicise what they did (unwisely imo).

Thanks for the welcome back!

Callistemon21 Sat 07-Jan-23 10:35:02

Dottynan

Could just help the military personnel who are facing court over past shootings. Harry, having admitted killing 25, might just have to answer in court.

Good point, Dottynan.

Sparklefizz Sat 07-Jan-23 10:31:03

You seem to read the Mail all the time volver. You frequently quote them.

Ronnytigs Sat 07-Jan-23 10:26:36

To my mind Harry (and Meghan) are in that awful over-therapised state, where as damaged people, they become damaging themselves. Harry will come to regret all this as time passes, as it will always come back to haunt him, in the same way that his past is already. Wonder what his next book has in store for us all? I really do wonder what the people who actually compiled the book were thinking when they allowed this piece of information to be printed. Surely they realised the target Harry was putting on his, and his family's, backs?

volver Sat 07-Jan-23 10:11:14

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s the identity and profile of this particular soldier which cause the shock don’t you think, volver? And there’s no hint of outstanding courage, of having done something exceptional in the face of danger, simply of having kept a tally and having chosen to tell the world about it. He and his family would be far greater prizes for the Taliban than the others to whom you have posted links.

Yes I do GSM. I think its double standards.

One of the links is about a soldier who killed members of the Taliban and wrote about it in his book. He was a couple of miles away the time and used long range sights. (Sorry if that's not the correct terminology.)

Harry is a soldier who killed members of the Taliban and wrote about it in his book.

I fail to see the difference.

I don't think he should have spoken about it the way he did, but all this talk of "ohh, he killed people and do you think he'll get taken to court for it?" Its just beyond belief. But the Mail tells us how wonderful one of them was and how awful the other is.

Welcome back, by the way!

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-Jan-23 10:03:51

I agree GG. We owe them a greater debt than we will ever know - much is done covertly and never publicised.

nanna8 Sat 07-Jan-23 10:03:15

It is not unusual to kill people but it is unusual to count them and write about them, especially if you are a high profile individual. I am searching for my pearls but it is so long since I wore them I fear I may have misplaced them. The tiara will have to suffice but one of the diamonds is missing.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 07-Jan-23 10:02:47

Sarah75

volver

I am GG13.

But some seem to think its unusual for soldiers to kill people.

I think people are surprised / shocked at the need to comment on / boast about it. Bit indiscreet / unnecessary /unprofessional.

PH has been rather stupid and shortsighted, he has constantly made a point of his and his family’s security. He is currently in the process of bringing a case against the U.K. Government for not providing free of charge security for his family when they are in the U.K.

His loose talk has just put a target on his and his family’s back along with all the British Royals.

No doubt there is a Taliban Cell somewhere working on a plan as we and the worlds press continue to discuss and dissect the minutiae of his revelations

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 07-Jan-23 10:00:03

It’s the identity and profile of this particular soldier which cause the shock don’t you think, volver? And there’s no hint of outstanding courage, of having done something exceptional in the face of danger, simply of having kept a tally and having chosen to tell the world about it. He and his family would be far greater prizes for the Taliban than the others to whom you have posted links.

Sarah75 Sat 07-Jan-23 09:57:18

volver

I am GG13.

But some seem to think its unusual for soldiers to kill people.

I think people are surprised / shocked at the need to comment on / boast about it. Bit indiscreet / unnecessary /unprofessional.

volver Sat 07-Jan-23 09:55:20

I am GG13.

But some seem to think its unusual for soldiers to kill people.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 07-Jan-23 09:53:54

I am not shocked by any forces personnel killing the enemy, that is what they are trained for.

I have had a quick look at your links volver and they highlight highly trained brave men reacting in exceptional circumstances, well done them.

I think we should all be grateful for our armed service personnel, as we will never know all that they do to keep the U.K. safe.

volver Sat 07-Jan-23 09:32:00

Soldier admits to killing enemy shock.

Oh, put away the pearls.

What about this guy?
www.nationalturk.com/en/hero-british-army-gurkha-soldiers-dipprasad-pun-killed-30-taliban-single-handedly-uk-news-51354/

Or this one? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5853135/Midlands-SAS-soldier-killed-three-Taliban-fighters-death-cave-raid-Afghanistan.html

Or this one? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1270414/British-sniper-sets-new-sharpshooting-record-1-54-mile-double-Taliban-kill.html

Anniebach Sat 07-Jan-23 09:29:04

Why the need to view and count the deaths

Sparklefizz Sat 07-Jan-23 09:28:39

Harry says the RF have to take accountability, so presumably whenever he next comes to the UK, he will be given the bigger bedroom grin

Dottynan Sat 07-Jan-23 09:26:01

Could just help the military personnel who are facing court over past shootings. Harry, having admitted killing 25, might just have to answer in court.

Beautful Sat 07-Jan-23 07:48:35

Personally as soon as I read what he wrote , I thought how stupid & irresponsible he is ! Not intelligent at all, just caused a whole lot more problems for himself , & many more people . When I look at photos of him I automatically think , how sad he looks ... yet our King is still open for him to come to his Coronation ... as they say 2 wrongs don't make a right , a bigger person to forgive ... too many people air their dirty linen in public ... I wonder if he regrets or will ever regret what he has done, even if only part of it ... who knows ...