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Harry has admitted to killing 25 people in Afghanistan.

(259 Posts)
Sago Thu 05-Jan-23 16:13:42

Astonishing that he has announced this.
He has now put his wife, children and himself at serious risk not to mention all the other implications.

He is a silly immature and dangerous man.

biglouis Thu 05-Jan-23 16:18:24

I will keep quiet about all the people Ive killed (in my thoughts).

Allsorts Thu 05-Jan-23 16:18:50

Omg, dud he keep a tally.

Allsorts Thu 05-Jan-23 16:19:02

Did sorry

tickingbird Thu 05-Jan-23 16:19:08

Yes Sago but is it true?

He may have killed Taliban fighters - not sure if he’d know the exact number or if it was actually him or a group he was with that killed them. Either way, I agree that this is a very foolish thing to say. It’s very difficult for bodyguards to protect someone when fanatics are involved as they’re happy to die for their cause. Silly man.

Ailidh Thu 05-Jan-23 16:21:00

I'm beginning to think I might have to read the book after all, to see if he really did say what they say he said. Once it's down to a fiver.

Allsorts Thu 05-Jan-23 16:21:49

Of course only Harry was there, what about all his friends, bet they haven’t had counselling. He should not have said it.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Thu 05-Jan-23 16:23:02

Oh dear, where will these confessions end? He was a soldier and on the front line in wartime it is often their job to kill, but saying so out loud is very foolish indeed.

It's like he's opened the floodgates and now he doesn't know when to stop.

Oreo Thu 05-Jan-23 16:23:05

When you’ve read it for a fiver, lend it to me Ailidh and then I’ll pass it on😆

Ziplok Thu 05-Jan-23 16:23:26

If true, a very unwise thing to admit and put out there.

Ailidh Thu 05-Jan-23 16:25:40

Oreo

When you’ve read it for a fiver, lend it to me Ailidh and then I’ll pass it on😆

Will do. 😜

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For the avoidance of doubt, I wasn't doubting Sago, just all the "alleged"s I found online.....

lixy Thu 05-Jan-23 16:32:10

He seems to have lost any grip on reality. What a dangerous thing to have said.
As biegecardigan says - seems he just doesn't have a stop button any more.

LondonMzFitz Thu 05-Jan-23 16:32:56

from one media source (Joe.co.uk) - ^“I made it my purpose, from day one, to never go to bed with any doubt whether I had done the right thing…whether I had shot at Taliban and only Taliban, without civilians in the vicinity. I wanted to return to Great Britain with all my limbs, but more than that I wanted to get home with my conscience intact.”
He says that in war soldiers do not usually know how many enemies they have killed, but “in the era of Apaches and laptops” he was able to say “with exactness how many enemy combatants I had killed. And it seemed to me essential not to be afraid of that number.
“So my number is 25. It’s not a number that fills me with satisfaction, but nor does it embarrass me.”
Explaining why he feels no guilt about taking lives in Afghanistan, he said that he never forgot watching news coverage of the 9/11 attacks when he was at Eton.
He describes those responsible for the attacks, and their sympathisers, as “enemies of humanity”, and says that fighting them was an act of vengeance for one of the worst crimes in human history.
In fact, he said the only shots he thought twice about were the ones he had not taken.
Prince Harry was deployed as a forward air controller in Helmand province during his first tour of duty in 2007-08, which was cut short when foreign news organisations breached a news blackout that had been agreed with the British media.
In 2012, after learning to fly Apache helicopters, he was deployed to Camp Bastion in southern Afghanistan with the Army Air Corps, staying for 20 weeks. He said at the time that killing insurgents was part of his job, and that “we fire when we have to, take a life to save a life”.^

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I don't know why Harry would reveal this. I do think it adds weight to his and his families need for security while in the UK which was widely discussed and refused by HM last year. But I personally find it extraordinary he'd reveal this. I don't buy into the hatred of H&M and have argued their case on the (many, many) threads on this site. I do hope Harry explains further why he has revealed this.

My (now ex) husband as a Reservist served in Afghanistan in 2010, on Herrick 12 (the Operation name). We split 14 months after he came home, just to give a little context on my mindset. With (mainly) young men who are "on alert" 24/7 for six/seven months in hostile territory. Takes a certain sort of person.

I can't imagine a circumstance where I, as the OP has, label Harry as "silly immature and dangerous" though.

Sparklefizz Thu 05-Jan-23 16:37:56

He references 9/11. Does he think that saying this will go down well in America?

Making this public - honestly, he's even more of an idiot than I thought.

FannyCornforth Thu 05-Jan-23 16:38:26

I am very ignorant about such matters, but I thought that this was exactly how soldiers were encouraged to think.

FannyCornforth Thu 05-Jan-23 16:40:20

I meant to add, if anyone can enlighten me as to how they are supposed to go about such things, I’d appreciate it

FannyCornforth Thu 05-Jan-23 16:45:37

Sago of course,
you are absolutely right about the security risk.
He always was, wasn’t he? I don’t believe that he should ever have gone to Afghanistan, for the sake of his comrades.
It always struck me as a bit dilettante/ Marie Antoinette playing at milk maids.
Now we learn differently…

Katie59 Thu 05-Jan-23 16:51:13

My heart goes out to the courage of anyone who serves in that sort of urban war, my brother served in NI it changed him.
Is Harry’s problem PTSD?.

ExperiencedNotOld Thu 05-Jan-23 16:55:20

Yes, there is a security risk, but as he’s no longer part of UK forces, he’s highlighting himself alone. That said, it’s an inevitability that as crew in an Apache he would have been part of taking out ‘enemy’ forces.
I have a fait bit of experience of just what can be seen from the cockpit whilst so very high up - it’s a lot. He’d have known how many engagements were made and how many were killed.
I’d suggest a bit of an unresolved issue here. It’s a shame he cut of so many friends in the Army Air Corps.

pascal30 Thu 05-Jan-23 16:59:23

He's really set himself up for problems in the future now.. he'll never be safe again or free.. whoever advised him or edited this book also bears responsibility for whatever occurs in the future.
What a mess...

tidyskatemum Thu 05-Jan-23 17:04:10

According to the extract I've seen ( so many sources now I've lost track!) he rewatched each sortie on video when back at base and that's how he kept score. That does not sound normal to me, though that's just me, However, I do know people who were in Iraq and Afghanistan and they would never dream of talking about how many people they killed.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Jan-23 17:14:09

What a mess.... indeed pascal. Surely such details are best kept between a client and their counsellor, not for the public domain.

Deedaa Thu 05-Jan-23 17:14:10

It does seem a bit strange. I know that most people who fought in WW2 usually said very little about whether they had killed anyone. There's the story of Peter Jackson directing a stabbing in The Lord Of The Rings when Christopher Lee told him that "If you stab someone in the back they don't make that noise" and he realised this was something Christopher knew from experience. But nothing more was ever said about his work during the war.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 05-Jan-23 17:14:30

Our AS served in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia and many other wars.

He is still in the Forces and of the many many Forces do’s , mess dinners and general socialising I have never ever heard any of these extremely brave young men and women boast of their kills . I would go as far as saying those who have been involved in the most harrowing fighting are those who say the least…

FannyCornforth Thu 05-Jan-23 17:17:42

GG, yes, I hope that I haven’t said anything to offend you.
You bring to mind all of those silent men who returned from the WWs