Harry sensationally accuses camilla

So if Diana had not died as she did (and become some sort of Saint in the processs). Could have been interesting. She had adultorous relationshiops whislt she was still married to Charles, and wold have undoubtedly coninued with other relationships. After all she died whilst with her latest lover.

Agree that she was used when she was young to become the unloved wife of the future King. My goodness, how dreadful - such an unknown thing for arrnged marriages not to be with love!!!!! At least she did have quite a few compensations.

Harry believes the press were responsible for his mother's death. Wrong. It was his mother's reliance on the press that was her downfall. Unbelievably, he is following the same route.

volver

I wonder?

Maybe this is all the work of aliens who are planning an attack on the world and they think that by destabilising the British Royal Family the population of the world will be more easily conquered.

I mean it could be.

It's as believable as much of the nonsense spouted about the RF, let's face it!

I wonder?

Maybe this is all the work of aliens who are planning an attack on the world and they think that by destabilising the British Royal Family the population of the world will be more easily conquered.

I mean it could be.

I wonder? if this could be manipulation of H by his wife, so that she can claim unreasonable behaviour and get an easy divorce plus half his wealth and the children, who could well be future cash generators for her

eg. So, why is Dinahmo looking for jealousy on the part of Kate then? That's what I mean about side taking.

I don't see why everything has to be a competition with people taking sides to look for good versus bad all the time, eg in William v Harry or Meghan v Catherine.
There are times when we should look a bit more objectively at things and maybe tweek our biases.
I think I remarked, unusually for me, that after watching the Netflix docuseries I warmed to Meghan and actually understood some of what she was trying to say.

tickingbird

*The Queen didn't go to Wimbledon with Meghan*

You are right and I was just about to say the same. So much disinformation out there.

I think the smiles between Meghan and The Queen were at the beginning when Meghan did her first solo engagement with the Queen to watch some children perform in Cheshire. Not Wimbledon. Wasn't it also where Meghan said the Queen shared her blanket with herbin the car?
Anyway, what that really shows is that at that point there were huge efforts on both sides to want to make things work.

tickingbird

*The Queen didn't go to Wimbledon with Meghan*

You are right and I was just about to say the same. So much disinformation out there.

It wasn't Wimbledon Dinahmo, it was Cheshire.

You could regurgitate made up stories from Facebook, think photoshopped pictures of Harry prove him to be a liar, selectively quote from Harry's book to mkae him look bad or just make stuff up to suit yourself, but for goodness sake don't mistake Cheshire for Surrey.

www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2018/06/14/queen-and-meghan-giggled-together-like-teenagers-says-body-language-expert/

Your entire credibility is gone

(Yes, sarcasm.)

He would say that wouldnt he

Charles said his relationship with Camilla began when the marriage had broken down.

Was there press stories of Charles and Camilla in the 70’s ? No
but Much about Kanga Tryon

Good post Phillippa111

The Queen didn't go to Wimbledon with Meghan

You are right and I was just about to say the same. So much disinformation out there.

Dinahmo

What about the influence of Kate? Is there no jealousy on her part? I remember when Harry and Meghan became engaged mos of the country appeared to be happy. He was popular because he seemed to be a likeable man and his popularity increased with the Invictus games. I remember seeing film of the Queen and Meghan sitting together at Wimbledon and the smiles on both their faces seemed to be genuine.

In case anyone's interested here's a link to a Buzz Feed article comparing tabloid reporting about the two women. eg Kate being praised for her knowledge of the meaning of the flowers used in her wedding bouquet (which included lily of the valley) and Meghan being attacked because the bridesmaids' flower crowns had similar flowers to her bouquet which also contained lily of the valley and other poisonous flowers.

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

The Queen didn't go to Wimbledon with Meghan

It's a nonsense story. Lily of the Valley were Queen Elizabeth's favourite flower and were in her wedding bouquet when she married Prince Phillip.

Everything else is just drama.

I saw so may made spiteful comments about Meghan even before got married. I remember on another forum where she was touching her pregnancy bump and the comments were vicious. I don't believe they'd have stayed here that It would have stopped. It 's almost like they've decided that they're never going to stop the Royalist despising them, might as well give them something to talk about it. Apparently it was the same for Linda McCartney and Yoko Ono back in the day.

What about the influence of Kate? Is there no jealousy on her part? I remember when Harry and Meghan became engaged mos of the country appeared to be happy. He was popular because he seemed to be a likeable man and his popularity increased with the Invictus games. I remember seeing film of the Queen and Meghan sitting together at Wimbledon and the smiles on both their faces seemed to be genuine.

In case anyone's interested here's a link to a Buzz Feed article comparing tabloid reporting about the two women. eg Kate being praised for her knowledge of the meaning of the flowers used in her wedding bouquet (which included lily of the valley) and Meghan being attacked because the bridesmaids' flower crowns had similar flowers to her bouquet which also contained lily of the valley and other poisonous flowers.

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

Definitely agree about Camilla. A most distasteful affair.

Charles should have given up the monarchy and married her in the first place, but then we would not have H&W. So IDK. Ideally Charles should have been faithful to his pretty young wife, but he wasn't.

Its grotesque that Camilla was there at his wedding to Diana.

Kate couldn't go to Balmoral as it was the children's first day at school, so it wasn't appropriate that Meghan should go. The row caused H to be too late for the plane so he had to make his own way there. I believe the only ones there as the Queen died were Anne (who was already at Balmoral ) and Charles, who was in Scotland. She had already died before the others (William, Edward, Sophie & Andrew) got there.

Philippa I wish we had a like button for your post.

Today the headlines are that Charles banned Meghan from going to Balmoral as the Queen became unwell. Who can blame him when the family's grief would have been fair game for the highest bidder. Although Harry has had a difficult time, what about the plusses of being a Prince? Unparalleled wealth, the best education in the world, adulation, people think that you are wonderful just for turning up? Time he started to count his vast amount of blessings.

Philippa111

I think Harry's response to all that went on in his life within his very dysfunctional family is, actually, healthy and if a person is constantly put down, unheard or gaslighted by those around them,( in this instance his family ) that is no easy dynamic to live.

It seems he felt he was left with no other (desperate) action but to speak to those that will listen and to finally be heard, in the form of this book. Being in the public eye is the platform he has known since birth.

Whether his actions are appropriate or not is not for me to judge as I haven't walked in his shoes. I won't read read the book as I already have got his message. I do hope he can heal and get professional help to do so, so that the anger that drives him can subside.

With regards to Camilla, this was not just a run of the mill second marriage with a son being resentful towards the new wife. This relationship was in place whilst his father was engaged and married to someone else( his mother)... now that really is unacceptable to most.

I feel sorry for them all, with every little nuance of their lives being commented on and gossiped about, by people who have never met them. Are our own lives all squeaky clean and lived out perfectly?

All the wealth and castles in the world would not make me desire that life.

Well said. The voice of reason.

MaizieD

Well, at least I don't have to read the book with you lot analysing every little detail as it appears!

Brilliant comment MaiseD.

WellsRose

wicklowwinnie

Charles could have married Camilla when they first met.
There was nothing to stop him giving up his position as next in line to the Throne. We would then have had Princess Anne, and what a wonderful Queen she would have made. But it seems he wanted both and he's managed to get it. The real villain of the piece!!

Completely agree with Anne being a great Monarch.

If Charles had given up the throne before he had children then we would be looking at King Andrew…

The act which enabled a female to take the throne if they were the first born and not be usurped by a younger brother was not made statute until William and Catherine married.

Leaving that aside I do think that Anne would be an admirable monarch.

NanKate

He definitely has mental health issues.

I do feel we are watching the very public unravelling and self-destruction of a disturbed young man.

I find it very sad