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Rishi Sunak holds emergency talks with NHS

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lemsip Sat 07-Jan-23 14:26:38

Rishi Sunak is holding emergency talks with NHS and care leaders in an attempt to tackle the winter healthcare crisis in England.

The NHS Recovery Forum at No 10 on Saturday will focus on four key issues: social care and delayed discharge, urgent and emergency care, elective care and primary care.

A Downing Street spokesperson said the aim was “to help share knowledge and practical solutions so that we can tackle the most crucial challenges such as delayed discharge and emergency care”.

But Sunak has been warned that the rare weekend meeting is unlikely to reverse the NHS’s fortunes. Labour said patients deserved more than a “talking shop” and the Liberal Democrats said it was “too little, too late”.

Senior doctors say the NHS is on a knife-edge, with many A&E units struggling to keep up with demand and trusts and ambulance services declaring critical incidents.

Discharge rates fell to a new low in England last week, with only a third of those patients ready to be released from hospital actually leaving.

The meeting also comes amid ongoing strike action

NannyJan53 Sun 08-Jan-23 08:51:39

Who has been in power for the past 13 years! I need say no more.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 09:40:27

I have bucket loads of compassion, emotional intelligence and empathy. I can emote all over the place. Trust me, Rishi Sunak is a much better bet.
His public delivery is not very sure footed and quite hesitant but he’s the best hope we have for getting the Uk through the current mess.

MaizieD Sun 08-Jan-23 09:41:26

just keep talking down the Uk it’s really helping … not.

I'm always fascinated to discover that the UK's problems are caused by a few elderly ladies commenting adversely on the current government 😁

I'm sure that the UK's enemies are reading our comments and rubbing their hands with glee as the UK's decline is accelerated by critical grannies...

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 09:45:54

MaizieD

^just keep talking down the Uk it’s really helping … not.^

I'm always fascinated to discover that the UK's problems are caused by a few elderly ladies commenting adversely on the current government 😁

I'm sure that the UK's enemies are reading our comments and rubbing their hands with glee as the UK's decline is accelerated by critical grannies...

Moody has recently downgraded the UK’s credit rating and confidence is one area they consider.
It’s not only a few critical grannies who continue to bad mouth the Uk. The grannies have jumped on the bandwagon along with the assorted aliens…,

MaizieD Sun 08-Jan-23 09:48:54

Sunak has no idea about the workings of money in an economy. Working as a hedgefund manager is using and viewing money in a completely different way from running an economy. He will be just as much a failure as his 4 predecessors.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 09:50:12

Jeremy Hunt is the Chancellor

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 09:51:30

So after that article in the New Statesman saying that the Remainers have to fix Brexit, now we're being told that a bunch (mainly?) economically inactive posters on GN are the contributing to Moody having downgraded the credit rating.

It's like living in "Alice through the Looking Glass" some days.

And as for talking about "aliens", I don't know what to say about that.

MaizieD Sun 08-Jan-23 09:52:13

ronib

MaizieD

just keep talking down the Uk it’s really helping … not.

I'm always fascinated to discover that the UK's problems are caused by a few elderly ladies commenting adversely on the current government 😁

I'm sure that the UK's enemies are reading our comments and rubbing their hands with glee as the UK's decline is accelerated by critical grannies...

Moody has recently downgraded the UK’s credit rating and confidence is one area they consider.
It’s not only a few critical grannies who continue to bad mouth the Uk. The grannies have jumped on the bandwagon along with the assorted aliens…,

I think that the Moody's assessors are perfectly capable of judging whether or not a county's economy is tanking without having to check out Gnet.
I think they prefer to use data.

MaizieD Sun 08-Jan-23 09:54:27

And as for talking about "aliens", I don't know what to say about that.

Time for the foil helmets, I think, volver...

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 09:57:00

No one heard of the self fulfilling prophecy?

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 10:01:46

Of course.

Everybody is sitting about thinking this country is s*** and that's why we are going down the plughole, of course it is.

Nothing to do with 12 years of incompetent governments.

A bit of positive thinking, that's what we need.

We are a global power, we are a global power...

MaizieD Sun 08-Jan-23 10:03:36

ronib

No one heard of the self fulfilling prophecy?

Well, I'm not going to start lying about the truly appalling state of the UK in order to keep your party in government.

The quadrupeds in the fields around me aren't unicorns and the uplands are very wet and muddy.

Luckygirl3 Sun 08-Jan-23 10:06:08

This is just window-dressing. What should be happening is good solid consultations with all the stake-holders - behind the scenes.

Until this government even begin to understand that some services are simply not suited to the competition dogma, we will be stuck with this fragmented understaffed NHS....... and crap transport services, and a struggling education system etc. etc.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 10:09:48

I did not vote in the last election

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 10:10:57

Volver we are not economically inactive

choughdancer Sun 08-Jan-23 10:13:59

Perhaps improvement could be made by tackling it from the other end. Doctors take at least 7 years to train, but already trained ones are leaving the NHS. Nurses also take a long time to train, and trained ones are leaving the NHS.
Patients who need to leave hospital and into care are blocking beds.
Carers need training but not for as long as doctors, nurses.
Give carers on-the-job training (paying them!) under supervision, so that the problem of bed blocking can be lessened. Pay them a decent amount for the incredibly important work they do.
Pay nurses a decent amount and don't charge them for training or parking; maybe fewer would leave, maybe some (already trained) would come back, if the pressures on them are reduced by reducing bed blocking.
Perhaps it could be called 'trickle-up' !

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 10:20:13

ronib

Volver we are not economically inactive

I am.

And anybody who didn't vote, isn't a very responsible citizen, are they?

Or maybe they're an alien.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 10:40:52

I am allowed as a responsible citizen not to engage in the debacle of the current political system.
I am also allowed to point out that Rishi Sunak deserves a chance.

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 10:50:58

How do we think we ended up in this debacle?

Because people didn't care enough to vote or thought that voting was a waste of time. If you have abdicated responsibility for all that's going on, that's not a sustainable position. Its probably not the done thing to ask people why they didn't vote, but I'd love to know.

You are of course entitled to your opinion.

Sunak isn't starting from scratch. He was the Chancellor for several years. He can't abdicate responsibility either.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 11:01:08

Volver the old two party system of Tory v Labour is so last century. I would much prefer some less punch bag approach. Proportional representation?

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 11:05:55

Proportional representation?

We have that where I live. Not a two party system either. Used to never be any point in voting anything but Labour. We fixed that, by voting for somebody else. Not by complaining how hard it was to change.

ronib Sun 08-Jan-23 11:07:02

So you don’t live in the Uk? Interesting…

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 11:07:30

Yes I do. 🤣

varian Sun 08-Jan-23 11:13:24

Are you saying that you would prefer a return to FPTP for electing the Scottish Parliament volver?

volver Sun 08-Jan-23 11:15:38

No, absolutely not. Not sure why you would think that what I have said implies that?