ronib
Jeremy Hunt is the Chancellor
But he is very quiet at the moment.
What colour car do you have or did you used to drive?
How ironic - some HMRC staff essentially committing fraud.
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Rishi Sunak holds emergency talks with NHS
(81 Posts)Rishi Sunak is holding emergency talks with NHS and care leaders in an attempt to tackle the winter healthcare crisis in England.
The NHS Recovery Forum at No 10 on Saturday will focus on four key issues: social care and delayed discharge, urgent and emergency care, elective care and primary care.
A Downing Street spokesperson said the aim was “to help share knowledge and practical solutions so that we can tackle the most crucial challenges such as delayed discharge and emergency care”.
But Sunak has been warned that the rare weekend meeting is unlikely to reverse the NHS’s fortunes. Labour said patients deserved more than a “talking shop” and the Liberal Democrats said it was “too little, too late”.
Senior doctors say the NHS is on a knife-edge, with many A&E units struggling to keep up with demand and trusts and ambulance services declaring critical incidents.
Discharge rates fell to a new low in England last week, with only a third of those patients ready to be released from hospital actually leaving.
The meeting also comes amid ongoing strike action
Shame Volver you didn’t fix it for the better!
ronib
Shame Volver you didn’t fix it for the better!
You want to have that conversation, I'm up for it. But this thread is about Sunak.
Yes it seems to be the new style of government. It might be an improvement and I hope so.
In reply to Callistemon 21
Shame. I thought you meant me. 
It's all good for the Royals - they never use the NHS (and they won't be popping in to the nearest pharmacist). And Sunak avoids saying if he has a private GP. Any guesses?
ronib
Yes it seems to be the new style of government. It might be an improvement and I hope so.
Do you mean keeping the Chancellor quiet is a good idea?
The royals certainly do use the NHS Grantanow. Only the NHS provides accident and emergency and intensive care and ,special care baby units for example. There are numerous times the NHS has had royal patients.
ronib
Yes it seems to be the new style of government. It might be an improvement and I hope so.
What? 😱
You mean the 'sit back and let the country collapse around you' style?
That's not new; that was Johnson''s style.
Whitewavemark2
He reminds me of a keen school boy, but not really developed beyond that level.
He looks like a school boy who has gown out of his uniform. What is it with his trousers?
Makes a change from the shout it from the rooftops. Showbiz style government is not really very good? Maybe present government is plodding away to get us onto a better footing?
ronib
Makes a change from the shout it from the rooftops. Showbiz style government is not really very good? Maybe present government is plodding away to get us onto a better footing?
but why are you interested in how or why this or any other government are doing anything if you don't even vote? Just curious, not goady
I am a trained social scientist
The NHS is failing and nothing can be done quickly because although money could be available, it’s staff and wards that are lacking, Community Care to stop bed blocking is the first priority, we simply cannot have the continual blame game LAs have to be given the money to provide proper community care, then maybe next winter will see an improvement.
Reinstating nursing bursaries will help in the future along with sensible work loads and working conditions.
Its way past time some serious action was needed in the NHS. One of the biggest issues in my opinion is the split between medical care ( hospitals and GPs etc)- in the NHS which comes from national funding and social care (convalescent /ongoing/community care) provided largely by the local funding presumably from cancel tax revenues. Both NHS and social care are struggling- both with staff numbers and financially.
There needs to be a properly funded aftercare support system - so that patients who need support to recover or avoid worsening health but no longer need full medical hospital care have suitable support- and hospitals can move people to this ongoing care with full confidence that convalescence and rehab can occur. As far as I see it, there needs to be residential rehab as well as non residential.
There used to be residential convalescent and rehab centres- but over the last 50? years they have closed down. Most people get better faster in their own home, but some people may not be able to be fully supported at home- so may need a 'stepping stone' placement- as there used to be. If there were 'stepping stone recovery/rehab facilities and NHS care at home, then major hospitals could free up capacity for acute care.
I think adding suitably staffed and funded capacity to 'step down care is an urgent priority.
I seen to recall a certain tousled haired PM candidate promising huge changes to social care......or did I just imagine it?
HousePlantQueen
I seen to recall a certain tousled haired PM candidate promising huge changes to social care......or did I just imagine it?
I think we heard it, but perhaps it was all a dream HPQ
Like Bobby in the shower.
Katie59
The NHS is failing and nothing can be done quickly because although money could be available, it’s staff and wards that are lacking, Community Care to stop bed blocking is the first priority, we simply cannot have the continual blame game LAs have to be given the money to provide proper community care, then maybe next winter will see an improvement.
Reinstating nursing bursaries will help in the future along with sensible work loads and working conditions.
Good comments.👏🏻👏🏻
NannyJan53
Who has been in power for the past 13 years! I need say no more.
Don't be silly. It is ALL Corbyn's fault- every single bit of disaster.
Ali23
Nightingale wards for discharge patients could work as a temporary measure. They were possible in the pandemic so why not now?
They stood empty in the pandemic as there were no staff to run them.
It's true Casdon that the Royals would be entitled to NHS emergency treatment but I am sure, after initial treatment, a Royal would be transferred to a private hospital, provided that there were no medical reasons not to. The preferred hospital for Royals seems to have been the private King Edward VII Hospital for Officers in London. I can only find two examples of NHS treatment - one for the Countess of Wessex and once for tests for Prince Philip - but there is a very long list of private hospital treatment for Royals at www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9756835/If-Queen-royal-family-love-NHS-use-little.html
When I visited the former Royal yacht Britannia I was told by the guide that two consultant surgeons were always flown out to stay on the yacht whenever a member of the RF was aboard. I doubt that was an NHS service!
They may love the NHS but they don't much use it.
Grantanow
It's true Casdon that the Royals would be entitled to NHS emergency treatment but I am sure, after initial treatment, a Royal would be transferred to a private hospital, provided that there were no medical reasons not to. The preferred hospital for Royals seems to have been the private King Edward VII Hospital for Officers in London. I can only find two examples of NHS treatment - one for the Countess of Wessex and once for tests for Prince Philip - but there is a very long list of private hospital treatment for Royals at www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9756835/If-Queen-royal-family-love-NHS-use-little.html
When I visited the former Royal yacht Britannia I was told by the guide that two consultant surgeons were always flown out to stay on the yacht whenever a member of the RF was aboard. I doubt that was an NHS service!
They may love the NHS but they don't much use it.
There are more Grantanow.
www.alamy.com/britans-prince-charles-leaves-cheltenham-general-hospital-august-4-2001-after-spending-the-night-recovering-from-a-fall-from-his-horse-during-a-charity-polo-match-in-cirencester-gloucestershire-yesterday-charles-a-keen-sportsman-has-been-injured-in-the-past-including-breaking-his-arm-playing-polo-more-than-10-years-ago-and-earlier-this-year-he-broke-his-arm-falling-from-his-horse-during-a-fox-hunt-in-derbyshire-central-england-image381269692.html
www.hellomagazine.com/healthandbeauty/mother-and-baby/20221107155733/sophie-wessex-birth-stories-lady-louise-james-revealed/
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/zara-phillips-welcomes-a-baby-girl-9066943.html
I can find more I’m sure. The royals use the NHS quite frequently in reality, we just don’t always hear about it, which is understandable I guess.
Ali23
Nightingale wards for discharge patients could work as a temporary measure. They were possible in the pandemic so why not now?
They were not fully utilised at the time because of insufficient staff. I'm not aware of there being an increase in staff since the pandemic?
Wyllow3
I'm glad the man understands a balance sheet, and feel we would have been better off if he had won the leadership contest first time round, but he simply seems to lack genuine compassion. he seems unable to grasp the levels of suffering.
It's not difficult to understand a balance sheet. Assets and liabilities on the one hand and capital and accumulated profits (or losses) on the other. It is possible to have a negative balance sheet although companies are required to explain how they continue if they are insolvent.
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