A certain book

volver

^How can you have memories of events that never happened Glorianny? He hasn't misremembered the actual event of M purchasing an airline ticket for her father because she never purchased one.^

Well, he never said she did.

But don't let that put you off.

Maybe one of our excellent teachers of reading between the lines can explain that telling someone you will buy a ticket for them isn't the same as actually buying it.

Well, reading between the lines we know now why Thomas Markle never came over to the UK!!

Nothing to do with adverse press reports, fallings out, Mr Markle being ill, none of that media nonsense!

It was just that Meghan found she couldn't buy a ticket on a route which Air New Zealand doesn't fly in a class they don't provide.

Why didn't they just explain all that in the first place?

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Well I am certainly checking the actual text!

I had the impression that we were said fact checkers …

I am beginning to feel sorry for the fact checkers..... And the publishers.

Thanks for the explanation Mamie.

If you have the book volver perhaps you can quote from it what he did say then. Does he say why the offer of the ticket wasn't taken up by M's father?

He never says it was purchased Smileless. The father never came back to them and the story of the photos emerged.
I am beginning to feel sorry for the fact checkers.....

How can you have memories of events that never happened Glorianny? He hasn't misremembered the actual event of M purchasing an airline ticket for her father because she never purchased one.

Well, he never said she did.

But don't let that put you off.

Maybe one of our excellent teachers of reading between the lines can explain that telling someone you will buy a ticket for them isn't the same as actually buying it.

Henry V1th is not his ? x's grandfather! His only son was killed at the battle of Tewkesbur, aged 17, without leaving any heirs.

Harry describes his dislike of his history teacher at Ludgrove for making a point of the fact that he knew nothing of British history, in particular his own blood relatives.

There followed a stalemate with Harry insisting he didn’t care about his family history so the teacher then presented him with a ruler with the names of every British monarch since 1066 engraved on the sides.

Harry was appreciative of the gesture but he had convinced himself that his family had declared him a nullity so why bother to memorise the names of past spares? 🤔

He obviously didn’t spot their names on the ruler. 😂

The Queen did not attend the legal ceremony of Charles and Camilla's wedding but was at the blessing that followed.

I think Onward is referring to what H's saying and writing about his family as breaching their human rights, not the criticism of his book GSM.

How can you have memories of events that never happened Glorianny? He hasn't misremembered the actual event of M purchasing an airline ticket for her father because she never purchased one.

He hasn't misremembered where he was and how and by whom he was told that his GGM had died because his 'memory' is a total fabrication.

No I don't think he was whingeing GSM. Just part of the narrative of events I think. (I could check but it is a pain on Kindle).

Glorianny
I suppose that is true of anyone who comes at any written piece with in built and established bias, but surely the point of teaching critical thinking about things we read is that the bias should be put to one side and the whole of the written piece, not just snippets or sections should be carefully read and assimilated. Not taking things out of context, not recognising personal bias and not reading with preconceptions are all important. Otherwise it doesn't matter what the writer is inferring you simply won't get it and you will probably get the wrong ideas.
Good point Glorianny
As you so ably demonstrate in some of your posts. Since you find it difficult to put aside your
^ in built and established bias^ . . .

The actual wedding was a small register office ceremony which the Queen didn’t attend Then there was a church blessing which the Queen did attend. I’m not in the least surprised that HM didn’t attend a small civil ceremony. Did he whinge about it? Why mention it?

I feel sorry for the RF as a whole and that includes H, because I don't doubt he has been through trauma- but I don't think this is the correct way of processing it.

As far as Harry is concerned, none of us should be trying to force change onto our family by sharing "our truth" and thinking it will "set them free". We all find enlightenment at different times and in different ways so I don't think forcing your beliefs and ways onto your family in this way is at all helpful. The fact that the book has prove to not be factual is troubling, as well as it's breach of the family's Human Rights.

Maybe the book was allocated to the wrong section? Would the fiction section have been more appropriate?

The queen was not at registry office, but was at the blessing in church.

Washerwoman

I haven't read the book and have no intention.Maybe someone who has seen that he said Granny didn't attend the wedding of Charles and Camilla ? Surely that's yet another inaccuracy? I must Google picture but I distinctly remember the Queen and Prince Philip attending?If so the discrepancies make it impossible to trust anything he says.

So apart from supporting my idea that people who defend the monarchy often know very little about it, I think this demonstrates the desire to disbelieve everything that H or M might say.

The Queen wasn't at the wedding.

Its almost like you've remembered something that didn't actually happen.

I haven't read the book and have no intention.Maybe someone who has seen that he said Granny didn't attend the wedding of Charles and Camilla ? Surely that's yet another inaccuracy? I must Google picture but I distinctly remember the Queen and Prince Philip attending?If so the discrepancies make it impossible to trust anything he says.

Yes I agree GSM an unecessary error.
The actual text is "Air New Zealand. First class. Meg will pay."
That's all.

I'm sure Harry was in NZ for the rugby World Cup and on a few other occasions pre Meghan. He can't have studied their in-flight magazine very well. I always like those pages and I'm jo geographer (or cartographer).

Fact over feeling is always better because feelings come and go, but facts remain.

I don’t think criticising his book breaches his human rights. In fact I know it doesn’t.

As for factual truths the point about a memoir is that you are reading a person's personal memories and those memories may or may not match events as they were recorded

It's easy enough to double-check facts though, surely, such as the glaring mistake about non-existent first-class flights from Mexico to Heathrow by Air New Zealand?

Any editor worth his or her salt will pick up on this or check before it goes into print and possibly subjects an author to ridicule.

If not, the author is put at risk of accusations of fantasising, thus rendering other so-called statements in their book open to question.

Writing about feelings may be subjective but factual errors are avoidable.

And such a recent ‘fact’ too.

I feel sorry for the ghost writer, who wouldn’t be expected to check the ‘facts’ his subject gave him beyond ensuring, via the publisher’s lawyers, that nothing he wrote was libellous.