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Prof Jenny Hocking
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My thoughts on Prince Harry, Meghan & the toxic Palace-media compact. 'Stories are planted, leaked, namelessly dropped, by competing royal media units .. the tawdry deal that pits brother against brother, family against family' #spare
@RepublicStaff
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Cakeface
It couldn't be possible that Harry has been telling porkies
againcould it?
What a hypocrite he is. Wails and moans that the British press give him and his missus no privacy and how that's adversely affected his mental health but has no such qualms in publishing private text messages, phone calls, conversations and emails from friends and family members to the world.
Squeals with outrage that his wife has been criticised and mocked by the press but is perfectly comfortable in publicly mocking and mimicking a matron at his school.
Whines interminably that his father was cold and remote but sneers and fantatises that he could kill him when he's visited by Charles and reassured of his love and pride for him.
Thank God he's not my son.
How absolutely true this is Cakeface and I agree with you, I’m also thankful that he’s not my son, and also that my sons don’t behave in this way.
Peter Hunt on Twitter
An extraordinary allegation that has received zero coverage.
Has anyone asked Kensington Palace what action - if any - was taken by Prince William?
William took no action because he probably knew & endorsed it. We know he endorsed Knauff passing paperwork to the tabloids to undermine Meghan's case. We know Knauff orchestrated the bullying claim. We know Charles has just given Knauff a gong so there we are.
Glorianny
I bet the whole lot of them thought him targeting his father's car was hilarious.
I don’t know about them since it never happened but you appear to think so.
GrannyGravy13
I have just bought the book on my kindle.
I had no intentions of doing so, but I am rather fed up with folks putting their spin on a book that they haven’t read going by snippets taken out of context.
Will be interested to see what you make of it GG13. I found it took a while to get into, but then found it a fascinating read. It is very sad in parts, very annoying in others and sometimes completely baffling.
What I did get from it was a sense of how difficult it must be for any of them to lead a normal life, especially the more emotionally vulnerable.
I have just bought the book on my kindle.
I had no intentions of doing so, but I am rather fed up with folks putting their spin on a book that they haven’t read going by snippets taken out of context.
Nezumi65
Normandygirl
There are so many "dark" moments revealed in this book, but one of the worst ones is how Harry describes how he could have killed Charles but chose not to. It happened when Harry was instructing Typhoons on a military exercise, near Sandringham, before deployment in Afghanistan. Charles drives over to see Harry and tell him how proud he was of him and what a great job he was doing.
He goes on ;
" I loved seeing Pa, loved feeling his pride and I felt buoyed by his praise, but I had to get back to work. I was mid control, couldn't tell the Typhoon to please hold on a moment
Yes,yes, darling boy, back to work
He drove off. As he went down the track I told the Typhoon
New target. Grey Audi. Headed southeast from my position down track towards a big silver barn oriented east-west.
The Typhoon tracked Pa, did a low pass straight over him, nearly shattering the windows of his Audi.
But they ultimately spared him..... on my orders.
It went on to blow the silver barn to smithereens."
I really don't know what to make of this, so many questions.
Was Harry qualified to be " instructing" fighter jet pilots?
Did Charles almost get himself killed?
Why on earth would Harry put this in his book as if he is proud of choosing not to kill his father?
Is this all a fantasy?Have you read the book? He was training and had to pick pretend targets to practice on. He chose his dad’s car as it moved away - as a joke. He also didn’t blow any barn to smithereens except by pointing at it and saying bang bang.
Honest to god if you are going to accuse him of being a psychopath at least read the bloody book.
And the reason he had to train at Sandringham alone was because the press kept on leaking what he was doing preventing him from being able to go to war (largely because it out others at risk - that was a more of a concern for the army than his risk).
Yes, I have read "the bloody book" have you? The pretend targets were the imaginary ones he thought up in his hotel room and are separate from his recounting of "steering jets over marshy flats at ungodly speeds"
Where have I called him a psychopath?
I thought it was a strange thing to put in his book, even if he was joking about "sparing" his father. If that was his fantasy, it raises even more questions. In fact the whole book does, as he see-saws between regaling us with his "jack the lad" antics and his popularity amongst his peers for his "pranks" to portraying himself as a poor deprived victim who didn't get as many sausages for breakfast as William.
I'm clueless as to why Jeremy Clarkson has apologised. How can he? This article wasn't written by accident. He didn't mistakenly write it. The Sun had a chance not to print it but went ahead anyway.
It was just awful. I have no idea what possessed him. What on earth did he think he'd gain? Did he think people would think it hilarious?
He's been an utter idiot and now will probably disappear from our screens. And it's all his own stupid fault
Talking about Jeremys - Jeremy Clarkson has made a semi-apology to Harry and Meghan for his vile comments published in a newspaper.
They haven't accepted the "apology".
You'll have to do better than that, Clarkson.
2 new reviews of the book available. One by Jeremy Paxman in the Independent and the other by Rachel Cooke in the Guardian. Both are scathing.
GrannyGravy13
Glorianny
I bet the whole lot of them thought him targeting his father's car was hilarious.
It never happened
No, they wouldn't have thought it was hilarious at all.
And, as GrannyGravy says, it never happened.
He was playing around on his simulator.
Great fun. 🤔
GrannyGravy13
Glorianny
I bet the whole lot of them thought him targeting his father's car was hilarious.
It never happened
Like most of the stories he comes out with then.
Not in a typhoon. On the ground FAC.
Nor directing a real exercise.
On a simulator?
Callistemon21
^Never heard of Joint Operations??^
He was training, not on exercise.
He did, later, train as a helicopter pilot and was a co-pilot but I doubt he ever got his hands on the controls of a Typhoon, not with the engines turned on, anyway.
As I follow, he was training to be a FAC and the typhoons were his training targets.
Not in a typhoon. On the ground FAC.
GrannyGravy13
Glorianny
GrannyGravy13
PH finished his army career as a Captain (Blues and Royals)
Typhoons are Air Force, why would a trainee soldier be giving a Typhoon pilot orders of any sort, even on a training exercise?Never heard of Joint Operations??
Oh yes.
AC was Officer Commanding of numerous joint operations.
Thought you might have done, GrannyGravy 🙂
Never heard of Joint Operations??
He was training, not on exercise.
He did, later, train as a helicopter pilot and was a co-pilot but I doubt he ever got his hands on the controls of a Typhoon, not with the engines turned on, anyway.
Glorianny
GrannyGravy13
PH finished his army career as a Captain (Blues and Royals)
Typhoons are Air Force, why would a trainee soldier be giving a Typhoon pilot orders of any sort, even on a training exercise?Never heard of Joint Operations??
Oh yes.
AC was Officer Commanding of numerous joint operations.
Glorianny
GrannyGravy13
PH finished his army career as a Captain (Blues and Royals)
Typhoons are Air Force, why would a trainee soldier be giving a Typhoon pilot orders of any sort, even on a training exercise?Never heard of Joint Operations??
I think he was training on a simulator, nowhere near any real aircraft, let alone a Typhoon!
Glorianny
GrannyGravy13
PH finished his army career as a Captain (Blues and Royals)
Typhoons are Air Force, why would a trainee soldier be giving a Typhoon pilot orders of any sort, even on a training exercise?Never heard of Joint Operations??
That seems to be the point.
Army soldiers are no different to RAF pilots of same officer rank.
Read book from a free download (defo wouldn’t pay for)! Poor Harry, so understandably traumatised by his mothers death and the harrowing press. But what is he to gain from publishing this book other than millions of dollars #don’t air your dirty washing in public.
From a literacy point of view it’s so badly written and the host writer was paid £820k!
GrannyGravy13
PH finished his army career as a Captain (Blues and Royals)
Typhoons are Air Force, why would a trainee soldier be giving a Typhoon pilot orders of any sort, even on a training exercise?
Never heard of Joint Operations??
Nezumi65, Have you read the book? He was training and had to pick pretend targets to practice on. He chose his dad’s car as it moved away - as a joke. He also didn’t blow any barn to smithereens except by pointing at it and saying bang bang.
And the reason he had to train at Sandringham alone was because the press kept on leaking what he was doing preventing him from being able to go to war (largely because it out others at risk - that was a more of a concern for the army than his risk).
Honest to god if you are going to accuse him of being a psychopath at least read the bloody book.
Brother says the same, it's military man humour, a big joke. Harry was in the Army, but training occurs all over. RAF could be put into a training mission, and they/he would work together. For the military (all Forces) it was important to get him trained/done. Potentially, RAF fly training over the restricted Sandringham airspace. He as a FAC trainee points to targets on his computer. Bingo. Nobody was shooting real bullets or anything, it was training.
Army humour.
As an aside, for a bit of a comparison and a laugh, (if anyone is remotely interested);
A friend of mine at uni studied a rather famous French/Irish writer for her dissertation and visited him in his flat in Paris(14) to talk about his famous work. (Along the lines of 2 blokes waiting under a tree for someone or something that never came.) It was a play full of nonsence, dreamscapes, fantasies, a load of rubbish really. Anyway, to get to the point, she asked him if he was just having his readership/audience on, pulling their legs, having a laugh at their expense. To which he replied with a wry smile! 😉
Maybe Harry is doing just that, but I think he will have to up his game to won a Nobel Prize in Literature!
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