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It’s highly likely Putin has ‘kompromat’ on Johnson. Those Lebedev parties in Italy - he won’t have been able to stop himself. And then there’s his urgent need for £800k. He’s one compromised clown…and he was our prime minister!

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ronib

Whitewavemark2 forget about the Russians … it’s his ex wives and wife more likely?

Not to mention 7 children.

Most of his children adults now, the four from his 2nd marriage are all over 21. There is one acknowledged illegitimate child born 2009 and one suspected b 2010. Why should they be costing him vast sums?

ronib

Whitewavemark2 forget about the Russians … it’s his ex wives and wife more likely?

Not to mention 7 children.

ronib

Whitewavemark2 forget about the Russians … it’s his ex wives and wife more likely?

Yes I know. But I sit here day dreaming😄. Blackmail sounds so much more intriguing.

The podcast was listing the benefits he received and it is absolutely astounding.

Apparently on top of the £800k, Johnson also received £1million for his foundation. No one seems to know what this foundation does. Almost certainly, like Trumps so called foundation, the money has gone into the Johnson coffers.

Whitewavemark2 forget about the Russians … it’s his ex wives and wife more likely?

What AC and R/S are saying is that this is an entirely corrupt government.

Just listening to the Campbell/Stewart podcast about Johnson’s loan of £800k.

My goodness it is entirely shocking, and it would be fascinating to know why he needed the money.

My mind is working overtime here😄, and I have decided it is blackmail by the Russians.

MaizieD I am intrigued to see that you believe share dividends are taxed at 7per cent. If you look at inland revenue figures for the highest band tax payers it’s almost 40 per cent.

Ooops, so it is. Poor souls...

That's me re-educated

MaizieD I am intrigued to see that you believe share dividends are taxed at 7per cent. If you look at inland revenue figures for the highest band tax payers it’s almost 40 per cent.

Also it’s only conjecture on your part that any given billionaire will make a certain arrangement to pay for Jenners. We don’t know the actual source of funding.

Furthermore companies like ASOS are in my opinion not very good for the environment. Cheaply made clothing for mass consumption and landfills - it’s so much better to encourage hand knitting!
Growstuff the internet information suggests rewilding has been put aside for the time being. The Polvsen family thankfully now have twin girls so perhaps they are busy?

And I still think that it’s somehow anti democratic for foreign and home spun billionaires to make decisions on our behalf, be it on Brexit or rewilding. Must be the cold weather, it’s getting to me ….

MaizieD

growstuff

MaizieD

Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

He's a major shareholder in Asos and Zalando, which are massive online fashion businesses.

So a significant portion of his wealth is in equities, which are a tool for speculation?

Share prices kept high by the prospect of high dividends which come out of the profits of the companies and serve only to increase the wealth of the shareholders? Taxed at a far lower level than earned income (7% in the UK).

How does this in any way benefit the major part of the population, of whom many, as consumers, have generated the profits by buying the company's products?

How does this benefit

I think he's actually a bit more than an equity holder in the businesses, but your point is accepted.

In the context of billionaires, he does at least buy large areas of land to rewild them, so arguably does some good.

The wiki entry under Jenners is of interest. It mentions Mike Ashley.

growstuff

MaizieD

Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

He's a major shareholder in Asos and Zalando, which are massive online fashion businesses.

So a significant portion of his wealth is in equities, which are a tool for speculation?

Share prices kept high by the prospect of high dividends which come out of the profits of the companies and serve only to increase the wealth of the shareholders? Taxed at a far lower level than earned income (7% in the UK).

How does this in any way benefit the major part of the population, of whom many, as consumers, have generated the profits by buying the company's products?

How does this benefit

MaizieD

^Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group^

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

He's a major shareholder in Asos and Zalando, which are massive online fashion businesses.

Speculating is a useless enterprise, because for every winner there has to be a looser, those in the middle, the brokers do make a “profit”. Individual smart speculators can make fortunes which is balanced out by losers, net effect zero.

ronib

MaizieD

Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

MaizieD what about your argument about trillions of money sitting unused in not sure where, doing nothing? In the case of Jenners that is!

We have no idea how much of his money he 'uses' and how much is just squirreled away earning more money in the form of interest and dividends.

(I'm sorry to hear that three of his children were killed. It must have been dreadful for him and their mother.)

I've absolutely fine with the idea of someone setting up a business and making a success of it. I am not happy about excessive profits, beneficial tax regimes and speculation in the financial markets which multiply the hoard just for the sake of having it.

volver

Anders Povlsen owns quite a lot of Scotland. Three of his children were killed in a terrorist attack so he does command some sympathy.

I'm not sure that there are a lot of residents near Jenners to complain, but who knows.

I don’t think there were any objections to this scheme. Yes it’s sad to hear about the tragic loss of young life.

However from a sociological point of view, leaving aside personalities, do you not think there’s a trend for the billionaire class to exert some kind of domination over sovereign countries?

MaizieD

^Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group^

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

MaizieD what about your argument about trillions of money sitting unused in not sure where, doing nothing? In the case of Jenners that is!

Anders Povlsen owns quite a lot of Scotland. Three of his children were killed in a terrorist attack so he does command some sympathy.

I'm not sure that there are a lot of residents near Jenners to complain, but who knows.

Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group

Gosh. I wonder what was the source of those billions

(Just to get back to where we were last night )

ronib

Volver I did not think I had explained what Jenners is?

More Google search… Anders Povlsen billionaire owner of a Danish fashion group bought Jenners in 2017 and it was being developed into a hotel, probably against the wishes of local residents.

ronib

Venture capitalists used to contribute most in taxes to the economy on huge profits years ago. Don’t know if still true.

Mick Jagger once said, many years ago , that the Stones brought more money into the country than the car industry. I suspect that was true. It would certainly be true if one took into account the Beatles, Led Zeppelin et al. That Jagger and others who moved abroad for tax reasons makes no difference to the amount brought into the country from record sales.

Volver I did not think I had explained what Jenners is?

Five firefighters.

But thanks for explaining what Jenners is.

Volver you misunderstood comment on Jenners. A beautiful old building, which sadly was no longer a department store and was being redeveloped, ?is important to the well being of some people.

Doesn’t mean that all fire fighters are not valued. Doesn’t mean that we are not worried about the firefighter who is in hospital although information is limited.

ronib

volver

Did he?

Well that's new.

Evidence?

(Why do I bother asking?)

Google search there are quite a few references
herald Scotland.com
26 September Dominic Ryan
Boldest of budgets
Etc etc

Hope Jenners has not burnt to the ground.

Well done. I read it. I disagree with him about that, doesn't stop me admiring him though.

The Jenners comments is very uncalled for. Personally, I'm more concerned about the firefighters that are in hospital than about making irrelevant comments about buildings.