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Jacinda Ardern lets the side down

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vickymeldrew Thu 19-Jan-23 08:42:48

Disappointed that New Zealand’s Prime Minister has resigned saying she ‘doesn’t have enough left in the tank’.
My guess is that she wants to spend more time with her daughter but doesn’t like to admit it.

Callistemon21 Sat 21-Jan-23 16:45:54

JaneJudge

i would kill for a piece of christmas cake with a slice of cheese

It wasn't home-made blush

FannyCornforth Sat 21-Jan-23 16:58:51

I hope that you three aren’t going to have another love in without me sad

JaneJudge Sat 21-Jan-23 17:07:39

FannyCornforth

I hope that you three aren’t going to have another love in without me sad

would you like some cake too? x

Callistemon21 Sat 21-Jan-23 17:10:02

🍰🍰🍰🍰
We could invite Jacinda too 🍰

JaneJudge Sat 21-Jan-23 17:13:30

for the sake of future arguments, man eat cake too but apparently Jeremy Vine is upset about it

Callistemon21 Sat 21-Jan-23 17:16:49

It's as bad as passive smoking sad

Mollygo Sat 21-Jan-23 17:18:17

minxie

People are always reading to knock people who have clearly done better than they ever could. This is a mean spirited thread

Yes minxie but it’s in the true spirit of GN for PITOE posters.
Don’t let it worry you. 🤣🤣🤣

FannyCornforth Sat 21-Jan-23 17:27:33

Jane, regarding cake: thanks but no thanks.
Have you got any crisps?
Or, preferably, maize based snacks, like Wotsits or Chipsticks.
Thank you. I’m still few bit left out

FannyCornforth Sat 21-Jan-23 17:29:06

Feeling. I can just about summon the strength to correct myself. 😔

kevincharley Sat 21-Jan-23 17:30:13

If her heart's not in it then she's done the right thing, whatever the reason.

JaneJudge Sat 21-Jan-23 17:37:42

I have wotsits smile

Galaxy Sat 21-Jan-23 17:40:15

This is like when you are internet dating and think it's all going brilliantly and then he turns up wearing socks with sandals.
Wotsits shock, the pair of you.

Seajaye Sat 21-Jan-23 18:21:31

Nothing wrong for simply resigning from an exceptionally demanding job. Other politicians seem to wait until they've made a massive mistake or error of judgement. Look at Liz Truss's economic fall out and impact on young families. I know which legacy I'd rather leave behind.

Susieq62 Sat 21-Jan-23 19:09:32

I am totally dismayed by her being classed as “ letting the side down “
She has given everything to the job for 6 years, kept CoVID deaths to a minimum , unlike here! But it is the populist white farming community who seem to want her out !
I admire her for being honest plus she wants to get married at some point and now she will have time!
Remember Liz
Truss lasted 6 WEEKS !!!!!!!
I am going to NZ in March , might find out more then 🤞🤞

knspol Sat 21-Jan-23 19:47:39

I think she's done a very good job in extremely difficult circumstances whilst apparently receiving an unprecedented number of violent, misogynistic threats aimed at herself and family. I believe what she has said.

Callistemon21 Sat 21-Jan-23 19:52:28

Remember Liz Truss lasted 6 WEEKS !!!!!!!

But she didn't let the side down, she let us all down.

Callistemon21 Sat 21-Jan-23 19:53:45

knspol

I think she's done a very good job in extremely difficult circumstances whilst apparently receiving an unprecedented number of violent, misogynistic threats aimed at herself and family. I believe what she has said.

Yes, I thought she looked shaken when she gave her resignation speech.

Milest0ne Sat 21-Jan-23 19:55:39

In NZ before the pandemic everyone who spoke of her was positive about her. I certainly applauded her banning of any Chinese visitors, while we were there. It was positive to ban them immediately. not like here were it is something to be implemented next week or next month.

Quokka Sat 21-Jan-23 20:42:15

What a sad slant the OP has put on this. JA spoke from the heart and indeed looked completely drained.

She’s an inspiration and no way has let any ‘side’ down

Eloethan Sat 21-Jan-23 22:10:25

I think she looks ill and strained. Perhaps there is more to it. I believe her popularity has taken a bit of a dive recently.

If it is truly because she feels she has "nothing left in the tank" why is that letting the side down? My feeling is someone like Boris Johnson lets the side down by treating his position as prime minister with very little respect.

Perhaps Ahern has, as she has implied, worn herself into the ground. That is obviously unwise, but it is more honourable than treating your job like one massive stepping stone to greater influence and riches.

semperfidelis Sat 21-Jan-23 22:12:34

I agree. This is a very mean title. Remember her handling of the Christchurch Mosque shootings and her ability to empathise with the mourners? Remember her swift introduction of stricter gun laws, after this event? Remember her policy decisions which contained the Covid outbreak in NZ? Remember her progressive policies on gay rights?
I think she's achieved more in a few years than other politicians have achieved in a lifetime. What's more, there is already someone who will take her place without the antics that have taken place here in the UK.

absent Sun 22-Jan-23 04:24:39

I remember Jacinda Ardern saying that under no circumstances would she go with the idea of herd immunity until there was a vaccine. Meanwhile, Boris Johnson seemed to be fairly enthusiastic about letting "old" people die to build herd immunity.

FannyCornforth Sun 22-Jan-23 04:25:57

JaneJudge

I have wotsits smile

Thank you! 🤗

maddyone Sun 22-Jan-23 04:26:46

It’s pretty obvious that Jacinda has done the right thing for her. She’s gone with her head held high and dignity intact. She is aware that it is likely that her party will lose the next election, and it doesn’t matter if it’s the farming community who are fed up of her, because every single vote is valid, and because she sees the likely result, she is going. I wish more politicians would see when their days are numbered and would act accordingly. They all say they want to spend more time with their family, whoever and wherever they are, when resigning. It’s just what they do.

Jacinda, in common with all world leaders has been through a difficult time with the pandemic. It was a novel virus and no one knew which way to jump. Personally I think citizens should never be locked out of their home country. Imagine the outcry on Gransnet if BJ had locked UK citizens out of the UK. I saw some comments about that very scenario near the beginning of the pandemic and Gransnetters were absolutely not in favour of that policy. To applaud one politician for that very act and disparage another for the very possibility seems rather too faced strange to me.

Jacinda has been the victim of vile comments on social media apparently. It is a very sad fact of life now that most, if not all politicians are abused in this way, and also a lot of other celebrities are too. It is a terrible indictment of society today that people in the public eye are vilified in this way. Indeed two of our British politicians have been murdered by vile people. I hope Jacinda will receive full protection for life, as all British Prime Ministers do. I think I’m right in saying that all ex presidents of America do too.

maddyone Sun 22-Jan-23 04:39:43

MrsFlowers

@galaxy with all respect, if you are a long term visitor to NZ, with the lifestyle of living between 2 or more countries, then you are definitely speaking from a position of privilege compared to your average NZer.

With respect MrsFlowers you know nothing of my circumstances nor my life style. I’m sorry if you were offended by my comments about JA but just like every other member of Gransnet, I have the right to join in discussion and state my opinion. That our opinions appear to differ is just life, people have different opinions.
I will just add, my lifestyle does not include living between two different countries, I am visiting my daughter and her family and this is only my second visit to New Zealand, although possibly not my last. My home is firmly in the UK as many regular posters on Gransnet know. My husband and I do like to travel which is one reason that we would never entertain the idea of living in New Zealand, beautiful though it is, because travel is more difficult and long winded, not to mention expensive, and we can much more easily travel to our much loved and appreciated, and equally beautiful, European countries from Britain. Indeed it is also comparatively easier to travel to America and Canada and we have taken various opportunities to explore that continent too.