Nicola Bulley 45y Old mum of 2 little girls missing from River Wyre area since last Friday morning at 9:15am walking her dog, Willow.

I have been there, with severe post natal depression. I planned it very carefully and decided to take my baby with me. It would have been drowning, in the same place that another young mother had recently taken her life. I thank God that my mother recognised what was happening and got me help. People in such situations believe they are acting entirely rationally, for the good of their families. I had that belief. It was only with the benefit of hindsight and treatment that I realised I was wrong.

Still lots of unanswered questions. I think the pm will answer a few of them. Until then I guess we have to wait and see. At the moment it doesn’t quite stack up.

I have heard people say that’s how they’d felt. My sister is one (she didn’t take her life ultimately)
There is also a state of mind which is so enveloping that the pain overwhelms everything.
The great tragedy, is suicide it was, is that she was not able to express it and get help, for although MH services are dire, this would have prompted immediate action.

Correct, “if it was”.

A man and a woman walking their dog discovered the body and called police, it is understood.

lemsip

A man and a woman walking their dog discovered the body and called police, it is understood.

Isn't it always

So it looks as though this poor woman went into the river, just as the police said all along was the most likely thing to have happened. I fail to see how that makes them incompetent. All the wild theories and accusations that have whirled around since day 1 came from amateur sleuths, not from them.

Sadly, when people drown without witnesses, it can be very difficult to find them, as currents and all things lurking beneath (weed, debris, etc) come into play. If not held down by something like this, it is normal for them to surface within a few weeks.

Let’s hope we see an end now to all the horrendous and hurtful speculation in the press and on social media, and that the police and coroner can be allowed to do their job. The family will now have to face the agony of the inquest, and yet more media intrusion. Until then they should be left alone to grieve.

mumofmadboys

Calli- the Ben Needam case was solved several years ago. A builder admitted on his death bed that he was using a digger or something similar and accidentally killed him. He buried Ben and didn't say anything at the time.

When our first baby was stillborn I found a book published by the NCT of other peoples accounts of losing children very helpful reading in the early days of my grief. Therefore I can see how other people who have lost loved ones to drowning can find it helpful/ useful to read this thread.

I didn't know that mumofmadboys
However, no trace of Ben has ever been found and the case has not been closed.

Callistemon21

mumofmadboys

Calli- the Ben Needam case was solved several years ago. A builder admitted on his death bed that he was using a digger or something similar and accidentally killed him. He buried Ben and didn't say anything at the time.

When our first baby was stillborn I found a book published by the NCT of other peoples accounts of losing children very helpful reading in the early days of my grief. Therefore I can see how other people who have lost loved ones to drowning can find it helpful/ useful to read this thread.

I didn't know that mumofmadboys
However, no trace of Ben has ever been found and the case has not been closed.

Quite right, Callistemon. The son of the gentleman involved has said his father had nothing to do with the case.

www.itv.com/news/calendar/2017-01-20/son-of-greek-digger-driver-my-father-did-not-kill-ben-needham

Very sad for Ben's family. There was a girl, many years ago who disppeared, Genette Tate. No trace was ever found of her either. Along with many others

GSM,

The convicted serial killer Robert Black was going to be charged with Genette Tate’s murder. However, Black died as the file went to the CPS and they decided not to proceed with the case.

We don't know as yet that she drowned. I find it strange that after all the intensive searching, she has now suddenly appeared. Could she have possibly be put in the river after death. Just saying.

I remember the case of Genette Tate as we lived not far away. The police believed Robert Black was guilty and were hoping that a prosecution could be possible but Black died just before this happened.
However, no trace of Genette has ever been found.

overthehill

We don't know as yet that she drowned. I find it strange that after all the intensive searching, she has now suddenly appeared. Could she have possibly be put in the river after death. Just saying.

It will come out in the PM, could be some time.

GSM

GSM so glad your mother stepped in in time 🌷

Whatever the cause, whatever happened - it's just so very sad that she's gone.

If it was suicide, Urmstagrams:

'People who take their own lives are not thinking rationally. The usual niceties in life, responsibilities, straight thinking all go out of the window.'

is spot on. As with extreme physical pain, emotional pain can be sudden and overwhelming. The only thought is wanting the pain to stop.

I think she fell In accidentally.
Not saying I’m an expert in suicides, but what I do know is many plan their deaths, often leaving a note.
This looks like a tragic accident.
Just puzzled as to why her body wasn’t found in the initial searches?

GSM. I'm pleased you were helped to work through your affliction.

Thank you everyone for your kind words. I just wanted to make the point that people often believe, so wrongly, that they are doing the best thing for their family, doing their family a kindness. They act out of love for them. I expect that with the inquest we will hear more about the realities of Nicola’s life and problems. It’s all very sad.

It's surprising that the Police and public searchers, police dive teams, and the so called diving expert didn't find her, and it's sad that this is how it seems to have ended.

But, I suppose it will give the poor family closure, and a chance to mourn.

The behaviour of some members of the public with this has been dreadful.🙁

Very sad, too awful for the family, waiting for her to come home or be found. Now that Nicola’s body has been recovered, they can grieve, not knowing when someone disappears you’re always hoping.

Everything about all of this has been so muddled in so many ways.
Lets' hope that the pm is conclusive in the first instance.
I know someone who had 3 post mortems.

Thank goodness for a tuned in mother who acted gsm 💖

People who commit suicide don’t always leave notes. I read that Mr Fielding the expert who insisted Nicola wasn’t in the river stands by this. He says he only searched the river bed, not the reeds and debris along the banks.

It now seems the working hypothesis reached by Lancs police when Nicola was reported missing was correct.

Germanshepherdsmum

Thank you everyone for your kind words. I just wanted to make the point that people often believe, so wrongly, that they are doing the best thing for their family, doing their family a kindness. They act out of love for them. I expect that with the inquest we will hear more about the realities of Nicola’s life and problems. It’s all very sad.

😟