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Guy Verhofstadt says “Happy Brexit Day”

(214 Posts)
vegansrock Wed 01-Feb-23 06:28:27

The Russian economy , with sanctions and a war, is predicted to have better economic growth than the U.K. Wonder why?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 01-Feb-23 06:24:23

MayBee70

I don’t see how brexit can possibly fail with politicians like Rees Mogg, Redwood and Cash behind it. Such intellect and dynamism. The rest of the world must be so envious of us…

😄😄.

Lots of Bregreters out there. The vast majority now regretting their vote, made on the back of lies and fraud.

The EU has become more secure as a result, as people are watching the U.K. flounder and becoming poorer and say “not for us”

The NY Times is this morning reporting that the EU economy will avoid a recession (unlike the U.K.) and is expected to grow this year. Some countries like Germany will not do so well as expected, but the on the whole the picture is positive.

Meanwhile the U.K. is the only major economy expected to go into recession in 2023, performing even worse than the heavily blacklisted Russia.

vegansrock Wed 01-Feb-23 06:21:34

Tory donor said “Brexit is a total disaster. Johnson threw the NHS and the economy under the bus”
www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/31/brexit-lies-tory-billionaire-guy-hands-uk-eu-economy?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Ashcombe Wed 01-Feb-23 06:20:56

I have recently written to my MP regarding changes to rules for immigration to EU countries. Those of you who travel to and from Europe will be aware of the need to have passports stamped on entry and exit. EES is due to be introduced in May, 2023 (just over three months away) but I find no mention of this new regulation when I visit the UK government site, advising on travel to France. EES entails the fingerprinting and photographing of British travellers with these records being stored for future times when they might visit. Delays at ports and airports are expected when this is implemented. This will be followed by ETIAS being implemented in November of this year.

grandMattie Wed 01-Feb-23 06:20:22

We can’t change things, but surely theEU was better as a trading group than trying to be the United States of Europe?
When we joined, it was the perfect system…

vegansrock Wed 01-Feb-23 06:17:42

Actually Brexit is costing more like £100 billion per year so all that talk of saving is rubbish Any amount of “talking down” wouldn’t change the facts . Brexit lovers “talk down”the EU all the time - it’s still the biggest and strongest trading bloc on the planet, so all the rhetoric of how it was all going to collapse without the U.K. and how “they need us more than we need them” was so much piffle. Can anyone name any one genuine benefit we have had by leaving that matches the whole list of negatives? Answer: No.

MayBee70 Wed 01-Feb-23 06:13:31

….was Peter Bone at the event, too? I’m sure he must have been.

MayBee70 Wed 01-Feb-23 06:12:46

I don’t see how brexit can possibly fail with politicians like Rees Mogg, Redwood and Cash behind it. Such intellect and dynamism. The rest of the world must be so envious of us…

grandMattie Wed 01-Feb-23 05:53:04

Because of the political antipathy of the rest of Europe, but their need for our money, Brexit was necessary. We were going to be made topay, both financially and politically whatever the poll result. Verhogstadt and Barnier are toxic politicians.
We have now left, with punitive clauses. TM didn’t do us any favour with her wobbling. Whatever his faults, BoJo got us out, then was catapulted into the pandemic.
We need a strong and committed Brexit government of whatever hue, with help from all the media. No more negative, woke, snowflake scandals. Head down, bum up, and work towards a fair trading agreement.

vegansrock Wed 01-Feb-23 05:43:32

Well we can’t be helping out poorer countries can we? Actually Brexit is costing us far more than we’ve saved. There have been no benefits to anyone apart from the super rich. The U.K. is the projected to be the worst performing country in the G7 with negative growth. We now have freedoms to do what exactly? Pour sewage in our waterways springs to mind .That’s good.

Urmstongran Tue 31-Jan-23 21:02:17

Good job we’ve saved £190+ billion then since leaving varian. The European debit relief for Covid.

varian Tue 31-Jan-23 20:31:06

Brexit is costing the UK £1 billion per year .

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-31/brexit-is-costing-the-uk-100-billion-a-year-in-lost-output

Urmstongran Tue 31-Jan-23 19:25:58

Most of the people I know who voted to Leave are hugely disappointed that the most hasn’t been made of this opportunity. Brexit hasn’t had a chance yet.

Bill Cash, John Redwood, Jacob Rees Mogg are amongst others at an event tonight in Westminster with the impressive Liam Halligan reporting on it.

Urmstongran Tue 31-Jan-23 17:38:15

It’s a journey, not an event.
It’s only been 2 years - 11 months were tied to EU legislation.
We’ve ‘saved’ £198 BILLION not being part of the European furlough and QE packages.
I’m glad we’re out.
“Things can only get better” 🎵 🎶 as the song said!