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Another child killed in dog attack

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tickingbird Tue 31-Jan-23 22:08:55

I have just heard on the news that a 4 yr old girl has been killed by a dog in a garden earlier today. Just horrific. It’s happening more and more it seems. Poor child.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 16:59:20

Iam64

I don’t believe the piercing alarm would stop a dog attack or fight Chestnut. Once dogs have become so aroused they won’t usually respond to noises or even their owners. MayBee suggests picking the dogs back legs up, something often recommended. The big risk I think, it human hands or arms getting bitten by intervening. But I’m sure if my dog was under attack I d be unlikely not to intervene.
Carrying a heavy walking stick begins to feel necessary. Alternatively, only exercise your off lead dog in a secure field, on its own or with another family/friend dog

Our dog was attacked when DH was walking her through the village. A Staffie ran out from someone’s garden and went for her. Thankfully DH had his walking boots on: it took both him and the dogs owner to get it off our dog who was unharmed. It had hospitalised another dog the previous week by doing the same thing.

Callistemon21 Wed 08-Feb-23 16:40:57

Well, they do say training a hosepipe or throwing a bucket of cold water over them will stop them.

But most of us wouldn't have a bucket of water handy.

Chestnut Wed 08-Feb-23 16:31:22

Iam64

I don’t believe the piercing alarm would stop a dog attack or fight Chestnut. Once dogs have become so aroused they won’t usually respond to noises or even their owners. MayBee suggests picking the dogs back legs up, something often recommended. The big risk I think, it human hands or arms getting bitten by intervening. But I’m sure if my dog was under attack I d be unlikely not to intervene.
Carrying a heavy walking stick begins to feel necessary. Alternatively, only exercise your off lead dog in a secure field, on its own or with another family/friend dog

Stopping a dog attack is not just for people whose dog is being attacked. Anyone either alone or with a child or toddler might need to stop an attack.

I could never manage to pick up a dog's back legs without falling over, and what if there are two dogs? What if it's a child aged 11 walking home from school being attacked?

I doubt I could beat a dog off with a stick, they would probably get the better of me, and school children can't carry sticks.

How do any of us defend ourselves during a dog attack? I know nothing about this, so over to the dog owners to advise.

Iam64 Wed 08-Feb-23 15:38:51

At our training group this week, they set up a cafe area with tables, chairs, a counter to collect a biscuit and drink , which you’d to carry back to your chair, whilst keeping your on lead dog by your side. No barking or lunging (by the dogs) allowed.

I’ve just had lunch at our village cafe, which is dog friendly. I didn’t take my dogs because every time I’ve been, there have been badly behaved yappy dogs. My older dog would simply lie down, no trouble. The 2 year old would almost certainly had barked at the yappy cockerpoo near us. The cockerpoo was sitting on a sofa, between its humans. It yapped often. They’d stroke him, give a treat, good dog then carry on as though this is acceptable. Humph

Iam64 Wed 08-Feb-23 15:32:57

I don’t believe the piercing alarm would stop a dog attack or fight Chestnut. Once dogs have become so aroused they won’t usually respond to noises or even their owners. MayBee suggests picking the dogs back legs up, something often recommended. The big risk I think, it human hands or arms getting bitten by intervening. But I’m sure if my dog was under attack I d be unlikely not to intervene.
Carrying a heavy walking stick begins to feel necessary. Alternatively, only exercise your off lead dog in a secure field, on its own or with another family/friend dog

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 15:23:17

MayBee70

My dog grabbed the back legs of the dog that attacked her dog. I know that’s what they advise you to do but no idea how she managed to do it.

My daughter I meant to say…

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 15:22:21

Callistemon21

She shouldn't be exercising it on a children's playing field for a start, even if it was a charming little chihuahua. MayBee.

We’ve had arguments like this on our local page several times. The people that let their dogs off lead say those of us that keep our dogs on a lead are at fault because we should have trained our dogs with 100% recall so we don’t know enough about dogs and they’re experts. There’s a Labrador in the next village that’s just attacked a dog on a lead: it’s the second time it’s done so.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 15:10:58

My dog grabbed the back legs of the dog that attacked her dog. I know that’s what they advise you to do but no idea how she managed to do it.

Chestnut Wed 08-Feb-23 15:01:31

So how do you stop a dog attack in its tracks? It's probably illegal to carry a laser or taser of some kind. Would an attack alarm stop a crazy dog? They are very loud and ear piercing.

Callistemon21 Wed 08-Feb-23 14:58:04

There are a lot of complete idiots owning dogs now

Yes.

Watching Dogs Behaving Very Badly makes you realise that. A family in a small house with a very small garden bought a Staffie? I think. They had a two year old and wanted another baby. The dog was completely uncontrollable indoors.
Graham Hall did help but I thought what stupid people and that sometimes it would be better if the dogs were taken away from people like that.

Chestnut Wed 08-Feb-23 14:53:58

Here we go again. Three women and a man bitten by two bulldogs, and their husky dog badly injured, costing thousands of pounds in vet fees. This happened on a beach.
She said: 'A dog came over and sniffed my dog and then done a little scuffle and made a noise and then just jumped on her and bit her face and wouldn't let go.
'They didn't have harnesses or leads, nothing at all. So there was no way of grabbing them to get them off.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11726735/Three-women-man-rushed-hospital-bitten-two-bulldogs.html

I'm beginning to think people including dog walkers need to carry some kind of protective device in case of dog attacks. After all, it can happen any time, any place, anywhere. There are a lot of complete idiots owning dogs now.

Callistemon21 Wed 08-Feb-23 14:35:58

She shouldn't be exercising it on a children's playing field for a start, even if it was a charming little chihuahua. MayBee.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 12:39:09

The woman who warned people about the dog has been accused of being a snowflake who knows nothing about dogs…
sad

MayBee70 Wed 08-Feb-23 12:31:34

There has been a report in my village of an American bully type dog running loose around the village. Its owner has replied by saying it’s her dog and it wouldn’t hurt a fly. Totally oblivious to the fact that they are the breed responsible for recent child deaths. It was being exercised on the playing field where the children’s playground is.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Feb-23 12:40:28

Reading what she'd done before was horrendous too, Jaxjacky.
She'd had a suspended prison sentence for cruelty to animals yet was allowed to continue breeding dogs.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 04-Feb-23 12:36:54

Totally irresponsible and obviously physically incapable of looking after dogs such as those. Glad she got a custodial sentence.

Jaxjacky Sat 04-Feb-23 12:08:25

An example of an irresponsible breeder locally, if someone hadn’t been injured and reported it, I assume she’d have carried on.
www.hampshirelive.news/news/hampshire-news/crufts-winning-farnborough-breeder-jailed-8110624

JaneJudge Sat 04-Feb-23 11:34:07

from the guardian

“There has been widespread speculation about the incident, which is not helpful and is distressing for the family, who have asked for their privacy to be respected at this difficult time. We will provide further updates when we are in a position to do so.”

veejay Fri 03-Feb-23 23:06:01

If true what I have read today that the dog had come from a rescue only 6 weeks ago and was a Pit bull X Husky.surely the rescue should be held partly responsible
Ae.
I thought rescues usually didn't rehome dogs to people with young children..I
I don't understand why parents would rehome that kind of dog after all the attacks by these kinds of dogs on people either

Iam64 Fri 03-Feb-23 21:05:14

rosie1959

Most definitely dog handler needed that dog looks terrified

It does look terrified and a powerful, terrified dog poses a risk.

I spent two hours on moorland footpaths with with my young lab this afternoon. I was working with a trainer, helping this boisterous, over friendly boy to stay within the safe distance from me and come immediately when called. He had a long line trailing so we had some control if needed, thankfully it wasn’t. We met four other people, walking their own dogs off lead. These were ‘dog people’ who recognised we were training and helped the process.

There was no need for any of the dogs to be on lead. There are other places and circumstances where dogs do need to be on lead

Luckygirl3 Fri 03-Feb-23 19:47:39

Blondiescot

As they like to remind us at every possible opportunity...

It I important to recognise that there are victims of dog's behaviour who cannot be expected to like them. Unfortunately there are those who need reminding.

rosie1959 Fri 03-Feb-23 19:34:32

Most definitely dog handler needed that dog looks terrified

Blondiescot Fri 03-Feb-23 19:28:57

As they like to remind us at every possible opportunity...

Luckygirl3 Fri 03-Feb-23 19:20:33

Please don't forget that there are those who have very very good reasons to dislike dogs.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Feb-23 18:31:14

An ordinary policeman probably wouldn’t be able to control it. Dog handler needed.