Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person

You speak for yourself Callistemon!! 😉😉

Jaxjacky

23% of their residents are non native, the majority of those are British, I wonder if they’re the ‘right sort’?

What is the right sort anyway?
I think we're still waiting for a definition.

If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

another type of tourist
What type of tourist?
Obviously not the likes of us or others on here who says they have visited Lanzarote already.

So who? Only the very wealthy?
Those who have been privately educated?
Germans? French? Swiss? Dutch? Americans? Russians? (No, they go to Salisbury)

Who, exactly?

Callistemon21

nanna8

I’d never heard of Lanzarote so I looked it up. It looks very interesting and not that far,either. It takes us about the same length of time to fly to Perth from Melbourne. You are so lucky living in Europe, such a lot of close places. If they don’t want British tourists,what sort do they want ? Do the Brits have a reputation for rowdiness or something ( like the Australians who go to Kuta)?

I haven't heard of Kuta, will have to look it up!

Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person.

It's since Brexit you know.

I’ve been to both Kuta (Bali) and Lanzarote, and I’d say there are definite parallels. The difference is though that Kuta is still definitely a Balinese city where tourists visit, and there are lots of other unspoilt, and upmarket tourist parts of the island, whereas Lanzarote has been pretty much taken over by tourists. It’s not surprising I guess if as Jaxjackysays 23% of their residents are not natives - that means the natives are outnumbered about 20/1 all year, and presumably a fair proportion of the tourists are a problem behaviour wise. I wouldn’t like to be a Lanzarote policeman (or a Kuta one for that matter).

Well speaking for myself, the stag and hen parties are to be avoided at all costs.

We went on a cheapie cruise P&O to European ports over a long weekend a few years ago.

Never again!

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

So only certain people should be able to experience holidays overseas?

Rather like the days of the Grand Tour while the peasants stayed at home and tilled the soil, worked in the cotton mills.

Bring back the Good Olde Days!

Nope- this is not what I said, at all.

Callistemon21

Jaxjacky

23% of their residents are non native, the majority of those are British, I wonder if they’re the ‘right sort’?

What is the right sort anyway?
I think we're still waiting for a definition.

If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

another type of tourist
What type of tourist?
Obviously not the likes of us or others on here who says they have visited Lanzarote already.

So who? Only the very wealthy?
Those who have been privately educated?
Germans? French? Swiss? Dutch? Americans? Russians? (No, they go to Salisbury)

Who, exactly?

Well there are 2 aspects here. One is the financial one- it is better to sell a product to those who can pay a higher price. Low Sterling is making the UK market not very attractive.

And you know perfectly well what people have been saying here. Sadly, if too many Brits behave very badly when on holiday, and cheap destinations attract them, for stag dos, and cheap drink into oblivion + drugs and sex holidays- then it gets some groups all tarred with the same brush. Sad, but ...

So, up your game, spend Covid time to re-decorate, improve facilities, better bathrooms, etc, etc, put your prices up and you get 'natural selection'. As said, a holiday is just another product like any other.

As for other nationalities, it is a fact that those with a better exchange rate, who can therefore afford to pay for better holidays, will get priority. Just a commercial fact.

Most of us’ll be back in flat caps keeping pigeons and whippets, riding our bikes, if places become ‘upmarket’ once again. Flying will revert to holidays for the rich only again. Oh wait - Thank goodness for Mr. O’Leary .... 😁

Urmstongran

Most of us’ll be back in flat caps keeping pigeons and whippets, riding our bikes, if places become ‘upmarket’ once again. Flying will revert to holidays for the rich only again. Oh wait - Thank goodness for Mr. O’Leary .... 😁

Spluttering into my coffee Urmstongran!!

Eeh, bah gum, them were the days my friend!

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Blimey snobbery on GN, who’d have thunk it…

Correct sort of tourists, really!

A teeny tiny proportion of of all tourists like a boozy noisy holiday. I have seen Germans, Scandinavians, Russians and French Drunk and bawdy abroad. Let’s not forget the American teens in Europe who can’t drink at home till they are 21 go loopy in Europe.

And you know perfectly well what people have been saying here

No, could you explain, please.

Fleurpepper

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Jeezy peeps Fleurpepper I have never read so much prejudice from a poster.

Callistemon21

Anyone who has lived in a tourist destination and is not working in the tourist industry may find it difficult.

Many of us have experienced being both tourist and local in a tourist destination.
The crowds might be annoying to those not working in the tourist industry but obviously they bring income to the area

Swings and roundabouts.

Not always swings and roundabouts if you live in or near a tourist destination, especially if your family have lived there for generations and yet your young people cannot afford to buy in their own locality. North Yorkshire for one example, Northumberland for another.

I read once that the UK is about 20y behind the USA (think back to telephones & fridge freezers in America in the late 40’s!) and that the UK is about 10y ahead of Spain (which used to be a fairly poor country, was mostly agricultural before tourism) and I’ve truly noticed that down on the marina at Benalmádena - since Covid - that the Spanish themselves have begun to embrace hen and stag doos! Groups of Spanish young ‘uns on holidays, dressed up as is letting their hair down. Who’d’ve think it?
🤣
Look out Lanzarote!

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Jeezy peeps Fleurpepper I have never read so much prejudice from a poster.

Quite shocking, isn't it.

We know you dislike so many things about the UK, Fleurpepper, as is evident in so many of your posts, but labelling all British people as badly behaved is a new low.

Which people have you asked? Who? Where?

In fact, you are "othering" us all which is strange indeed as you say you are British yourself.

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

Urmstongran

I read once that the UK is about 20y behind the USA (think back to telephones & fridge freezers in America in the late 40’s!) and that the UK is about 10y ahead of Spain (which used to be a fairly poor country, was mostly agricultural before tourism) and I’ve truly noticed that down on the marina at Benalmádena - since Covid - that the Spanish themselves have begun to embrace hen and stag doos! Groups of Spanish young ‘uns on holidays, dressed up as is letting their hair down. Who’d’ve think it?
🤣
Look out Lanzarote!

Oh no, they'll be having baby showers next!!
😲

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

Are you seriously implying that it’s only British Tourists partying in these destinations?

Having been to two of them I can assure you that there are young people and families from all over the place not just the U.K. partying

Nope, that’s not what said at all
Same meat, different gravy.

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

Oh, do you personally know a lot of locals in Budapest, Ibiza, Ayanapa who have told you this?

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

We went to Lanzarote for the first time last year. It was towards the end of the year so it wasn't as busy as the summer holidays. We went mainly for the weather.

Being a volcanic island it isn't exactly lush and green except around the resorts. It was an interesting island. An artist called Cesar Manrique had a huge impact on the island, insisting that buildings were height restricted etc. We visited his house on the island and it was fascinating.

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You can see the impact of British tourism on the island. Personally, I don't go on holiday to go to Irish bars and eat fish and chips. I can do that at home. No offense to those who like to do this.

We went to one resort (Puerto del Carmen I think) and it was full of 'English/Irish' bars and cafes. I suppose you could say it felt a bit down market.

It sounds to me like Tenerife want to pick and chose who it finds acceptable. There are lots of hotels that look quite run down and some areas are quite scruffy. The resort we stayed in had a huge area on the prom which looked like foundations for a hotel. It was about 15 feet below ground level. It was an eyesore. Apparently it has been like that for years.

If Tenerife is being selective about tourists it needs to look to itself to make some improvements.

Prices for holidays are going up massively so maybe this would keep the undesirables (in Tenerife's eyes) out.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

Are you seriously implying that it’s only British Tourists partying in these destinations?

Having been to two of them I can assure you that there are young people and families from all over the place not just the U.K. partying

Of course not- but there are just too many of them, in too many destinations. I can't blame the locals to change their clientele, to some extent. Refuse stag dos, and large groups coming together, would be a good start.

We had a holiday ruined in a good Hotel in Crete a couple of years back with a stag do- screaming, *ssed night and day, bombing people in the pool, being sick all over the places, smashing stuff up. Owners and other nationalities were not amused, and neither were we. Same in Tenerife, and ... Lanzarote. Staff were not amused either, and neither was owner. He said he would do everything to avoid such groups in future. Nothing snobbish about that.