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Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

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Urmstongran Thu 02-Feb-23 19:51:53

Oh dear.
I think they may regret this statement. Brits abroad spend a lot of money.
What are your thoughts on this?

Urmstongran Fri 03-Feb-23 11:55:35

MerylStreep

^Nope, that’s not what said at all^
Same meat, different gravy.

With a side of Brexit to add flavour. Bashing the UK is a pastime for some on here.

MerylStreep Fri 03-Feb-23 11:57:31

Fleurpepper
I’m surprised you haven’t come across the Russians partying in the Ski resorts. They aren’t just annoying they are scary.
But hey ho, you just keep on bashing the brits.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:58:20

'What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?'

absolutely nothing, as I am one. But let's go back to the OP- because this is what it is all about. Many British tourists have been very embarrassed by the behaviour of some groups.

As for owners and staff- yes, we do talk to them when this kind of behaviour happens- and they tell us what they think. In Crete recently, and in Sharm-el-Sheik with a friend a few years back, and other European destinations recently. When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:59:06

Oh yes, Russians, I agree. But this is not what the thread title is about, is it?

Casdon Fri 03-Feb-23 11:59:19

There’s anecdote, and there’s evidence.
yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2019/08/30/britons-make-worst-tourists-say-britons-and-spania
This is an international survey, so it carries some weight.

Actually though, what I think Lanzarote is saying is that it wants to move away from being a party island for tourists, Brits are by far the biggest majority who visit there, but they won’t want rowdy holidaymakers from anywhere. It’s not about discriminating against the average British holidaymaker. It’s no different to what’s happening in Madeira, or for that matter Fuerteventura. As usual though, it’s been pumped up by the media into being an outrage on British sensibilities, I don’t know why some people here fall for it every time.

Urmstongran Fri 03-Feb-23 11:59:30

What do other countries offer the Brits abroad?
The Weather!
Lots of people just want a pretty much guaranteed sunny holiday. What they eat or do once there is secondary to that.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 12:00:23

Urmstongran

MerylStreep

Nope, that’s not what said at all
Same meat, different gravy.

With a side of Brexit to add flavour. Bashing the UK is a pastime for some on here.

Brexit is certainly a part of the perception of Brits abroad, and a large part of the devaluation of Sterling which is causing real issues with buying any product from abroad, including holidays.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:00:47

Fleurpepper

'What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?'

absolutely nothing, as I am one. But let's go back to the OP- because this is what it is all about. Many British tourists have been very embarrassed by the behaviour of some groups.

As for owners and staff- yes, we do talk to them when this kind of behaviour happens- and they tell us what they think. In Crete recently, and in Sharm-el-Sheik with a friend a few years back, and other European destinations recently. When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP.

This has moved on from the OP by your constant othering of U.K. citizens which boils down to racism.

If this was about Muslims, Jews etc this thread would be taken down.

Maudi Fri 03-Feb-23 12:05:37

11:58Fleurpepper

Are you British?

When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP

Or do you go in disguise 😊 I'm joking

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:07:02

Urmstongran

What do other countries offer the Brits abroad?
The Weather!
Lots of people just want a pretty much guaranteed sunny holiday. What they eat or do once there is secondary to that.

Oh no! I am the complete opposite - it is what there is to see, experience, learn and eat and is paramount, good weather is a bonus but definitely not the most important. Although we have been known to spend time on the beach but it has to have the other stuff on offer as well.

The thought of people partying hard at stag and hen dos, on my holiday fills me with horror. I’ve experienced it once, it was quite dreadful, language, bad manners and drunkenness😡😡😡.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 12:08:29

Casdon

There’s anecdote, and there’s evidence.
yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2019/08/30/britons-make-worst-tourists-say-britons-and-spania
This is an international survey, so it carries some weight.

Actually though, what I think Lanzarote is saying is that it wants to move away from being a party island for tourists, Brits are by far the biggest majority who visit there, but they won’t want rowdy holidaymakers from anywhere. It’s not about discriminating against the average British holidaymaker. It’s no different to what’s happening in Madeira, or for that matter Fuerteventura. As usual though, it’s been pumped up by the media into being an outrage on British sensibilities, I don’t know why some people here fall for it every time.

Thank you Casdon- the yougov survey is quite clear, so it is not me saying it.

And of course, it was not me that posted the OP. What did you expect Urmstongran?

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:10:09

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

MerylStreep Fri 03-Feb-23 12:11:43

Callistemon
Your post @ 11.50.
🎹🎼🎹🎼 I’ve been everywhere man, I’ve been everywhere.

MerylStreep Fri 03-Feb-23 12:13:14

I think it’s a Swiss thing

Urmstongran Fri 03-Feb-23 12:13:19

Thoughts and Opinions Fleurpepper.

Yes I understand Whitewave that sunny weather is a bonus for you which is why I said ‘lots of people’ not ‘everyone’. Many people enjoy going for the cultural differences and experiences. Some holidaymakers just like sand, sea and sangria. All inclusive hotels often don’t help the local economy much, if at all.

Good job we are are different really. Life would be pretty boring if we were all the same.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:15:03

Juliet27

^Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person^

You speak for yourself Callistemon!! 😉😉

😂😂😂
Yes, I wear a Union Jack t shirt too

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 12:15:13

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family. A friend who was running ski trips for UK schools and that I used for my students many times- always said our Comprehensive School kids were amazing, and that they behaved so much better than posh kids from top Private Schools.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:19:30

I have read the survey, I nearly choked on my latte, Australian tourists are supposedly welcome everywhere, I assume they didn’t ask anyone from Bali 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

MerylStreep Fri 03-Feb-23 12:19:43

I always pack my Kiss Me Quick hat. ‘T’ likes to add a bit of weight to his gut so that it hangs nicely over his Primarny shorts.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:20:17

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family. A friend who was running ski trips for UK schools and that I used for my students many times- always said our Comprehensive School kids were amazing, and that they behaved so much better than posh kids from top Private Schools.

Still interested to know what you think is the right kind of tourist ?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:21:04

MerylStreep

I always pack my Kiss Me Quick hat. ‘T’ likes to add a bit of weight to his gut so that it hangs nicely over his Primarny shorts.

Don’t forget the wife beater vest along with the Stella can cooler sleeve.

Sarah75 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:21:33

Wht ti'n gymraeg, Callistemon?

MerylStreep Fri 03-Feb-23 12:22:15

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Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:35:54

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family

put your prices up and you get 'natural selection'

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

One with more money? ie Better? The right type? Higher prices = natural selection?

That is what you have said, Fleurpepper and now you are back-tracking.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:38:00

Sarah75

Wht ti'n gymraeg, Callistemon?

No, just roadsigns etc, Sarah!
Despite my DGD trying to teach me 🙂