Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

But it is the 'rejection' of local foods and culture that upsets people.

Is it only the British owned restaurants that cause offence abroad? What about the Chinese, French, German etc restaurants that serve their local menus? I have seen plenty of those in Spanish resorts.

I do accept that many British tourist behave badly overseas but they are just as bad at home when they are drunk, 9n holiday some are drunk all the time on cheap booze which is one of the attractions.
Food, we have a wide variety of food in the UK these days, pizza, Pasta, Rice, Curry, Chinese are commonplace, although there are national variations I have found there are many similarities, calling it “foreign muck” is just the drink talking. Expecting different cuisine on a trip to Peru we were surprised to have Rice and Chips served with every meal and meat was usually Alpaca ( like lamb).

Oh MerylS- stop that nonsense!

Fleurpepper
I think something got lost in translation.
You seem to have missed the point that you are frequenting these same eateries as the lower classes.
Why would you do that when you find them so offensive to your sensibilities.

I like to do both Fleurpepper as I dare say do many holidaymakers. I don’t think seeing people at one type of venue means they ignore local cuisine. Maybe just some days, in the sun, they really fancied fish and chips with a pint or a pot of tea! Next day - who knows - they could be eating locally sourced and cooked dishes. Variety is the spice of life so it is said.
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Urmstongran

^When you go to some resorts, and all the Cafés are British owned and serve fish and chips, sausage and chips, beans on toast, etc, with English beer- then it is not good for the local economy^

Well I’d disagree with this Fleurpepper as who do you think delivers the bread, eggs and ice etc to these bars and cafes? Yes! The locals, in their vans! I’ve seen them.

And the bars & cafes pay their taxes to the local economy, plus the council rates.

Yes they do. But psychologically and culturally, the message is there. And if those goods were delivered to Spanish (or ..) local restaurants, owned by locals, where food is prepared and cooked, and served, by locals, it would be even better for them

But it is the 'rejection' of local foods and culture that upsets people.

Oh I think Fleurpepper was apologising to the establishments on behalf of Brits Abroad in general Calli.

My last post was for Fleurpepper.

Oh dear!

No, we certainly never shouted at staff in restaurants- but witnessed it many times, sadly. Doh!

Well you must visit some down market places and eateries, I've been all over Europe and some far flung places and never experienced this.

When you go to some resorts, and all the Cafés are British owned and serve fish and chips, sausage and chips, beans on toast, etc, with English beer- then it is not good for the local economy

Well I’d disagree with this Fleurpepper as who do you think delivers the bread, eggs and ice etc to these bars and cafes? Yes! The locals, in their vans! I’ve seen them.

And the bars & cafes pay their taxes to the local economy, plus the council rates.

We have been on several holidays where we cringed and apologised profusely afterwards, to local staff really upset- after they were told (shouted at)- 'we are not eating this foreign muck- bring us some proper English food'. Several times, and in several countries (Bulgaria, Morroco, France, Tenerife)

Why on earth would you shout at staff in a restaurant? Then have to apologise?
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Urmstongran

What do other countries offer the Brits abroad?
The Weather!
Lots of people just want a pretty much guaranteed sunny holiday. What they eat or do once there is secondary to that.

What they eator do once there is secondary

I'd disagree with this. Locals, anywhere in the world, like people to be open-minded and try the local foods they produce and prepare, with love. When you go to some resorts, and all the Cafés are British owned and serve fish and chips, sausage and chips, beans on toast, etc, with English beer- then it is not good for the local economy. Nor is it for good relations and respect.

We have been on several holidays where we cringed and apologised profusely afterwards, to local staff really upset- after they were told (shouted at)- 'we are not eating this foreign muck- bring us some proper English food'. Several times, and in several countries (Bulgaria, Morroco, France, Tenerife).

Lanzagrotty has not got a lot going for it to attract “better class” higher spending tourists, it has got to compete with Dubai in the premium market and I doubt very much if they are going to invest enough to achieve that.
Many resorts and countries are trying to move upmarket, a ski resort in Switzerland is always going to be expensive, in France or Italy you can go for a week self catering at a fraction of the cost, the main difference is the people you meet. It’s the same with hotels and cruises it’s a mistake to go too expensive or too cheap you probably won’t enjoy it.

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

Oh, do you personally know a lot of locals in Budapest, Ibiza, Ayanapa who have told you this?

I know of locals in Mallorca that told me it. 'Wish they'd go home.' 'Drunken louts, day and night. Not wanted here.' 'Low morals.'

Not aimed specifically at the Brits working there too but it was implied as well. Although I'm so introverted I found the Spanish loud, but still... give a dog a bad name.

Sarah75

Wht ti'n gymraeg, Callistemon?

No, just roadsigns etc, Sarah!
Despite my DGD trying to teach me 🙂

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family

put your prices up and you get 'natural selection'

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

One with more money? ie Better? The right type? Higher prices = natural selection?

That is what you have said, Fleurpepper and now you are back-tracking.

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Wht ti'n gymraeg, Callistemon?

MerylStreep

I always pack my Kiss Me Quick hat. ‘T’ likes to add a bit of weight to his gut so that it hangs nicely over his Primarny shorts.

Don’t forget the wife beater vest along with the Stella can cooler sleeve.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family. A friend who was running ski trips for UK schools and that I used for my students many times- always said our Comprehensive School kids were amazing, and that they behaved so much better than posh kids from top Private Schools.

Still interested to know what you think is the right kind of tourist ?

I always pack my Kiss Me Quick hat. ‘T’ likes to add a bit of weight to his gut so that it hangs nicely over his Primarny shorts.

I have read the survey, I nearly choked on my latte, Australian tourists are supposedly welcome everywhere, I assume they didn’t ask anyone from Bali 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Callistemon21

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

Nonsense, I've never said being well-off = the right kind of family. A friend who was running ski trips for UK schools and that I used for my students many times- always said our Comprehensive School kids were amazing, and that they behaved so much better than posh kids from top Private Schools.

Juliet27

^Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person^

You speak for yourself Callistemon!! 😉😉

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Yes, I wear a Union Jack t shirt too