Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

Thoughts and Opinions Fleurpepper.

Yes I understand Whitewave that sunny weather is a bonus for you which is why I said ‘lots of people’ not ‘everyone’. Many people enjoy going for the cultural differences and experiences. Some holidaymakers just like sand, sea and sangria. All inclusive hotels often don’t help the local economy much, if at all.

Good job we are are different really. Life would be pretty boring if we were all the same.

I think it’s a Swiss thing

Callistemon
Your post @ 11.50.
🎹🎼🎹🎼 I’ve been everywhere man, I’ve been everywhere.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

GrannyGravy
My DD has taught at language schools in Europe and she had to chase after the students during her supposedly free time (none British, obviously) because once away from home their behaviour was just dreadful. These were from what Fleurpepper might describe as 'the right kind of family' because they were well-off.

Casdon

There’s anecdote, and there’s evidence.
yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2019/08/30/britons-make-worst-tourists-say-britons-and-spania
This is an international survey, so it carries some weight.

Actually though, what I think Lanzarote is saying is that it wants to move away from being a party island for tourists, Brits are by far the biggest majority who visit there, but they won’t want rowdy holidaymakers from anywhere. It’s not about discriminating against the average British holidaymaker. It’s no different to what’s happening in Madeira, or for that matter Fuerteventura. As usual though, it’s been pumped up by the media into being an outrage on British sensibilities, I don’t know why some people here fall for it every time.

Thank you Casdon- the yougov survey is quite clear, so it is not me saying it.

And of course, it was not me that posted the OP. What did you expect Urmstongran?

Urmstongran

What do other countries offer the Brits abroad?
The Weather!
Lots of people just want a pretty much guaranteed sunny holiday. What they eat or do once there is secondary to that.

Oh no! I am the complete opposite - it is what there is to see, experience, learn and eat and is paramount, good weather is a bonus but definitely not the most important. Although we have been known to spend time on the beach but it has to have the other stuff on offer as well.

The thought of people partying hard at stag and hen dos, on my holiday fills me with horror. I’ve experienced it once, it was quite dreadful, language, bad manners and drunkenness😡😡😡.

11:58Fleurpepper

Are you British?

When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP

Or do you go in disguise 😊 I'm joking

Fleurpepper

'What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?'

absolutely nothing, as I am one. But let's go back to the OP- because this is what it is all about. Many British tourists have been very embarrassed by the behaviour of some groups.

As for owners and staff- yes, we do talk to them when this kind of behaviour happens- and they tell us what they think. In Crete recently, and in Sharm-el-Sheik with a friend a few years back, and other European destinations recently. When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP.

This has moved on from the OP by your constant othering of U.K. citizens which boils down to racism.

If this was about Muslims, Jews etc this thread would be taken down.

Urmstongran

MerylStreep

Nope, that’s not what said at all
Same meat, different gravy.

With a side of Brexit to add flavour. Bashing the UK is a pastime for some on here.

Brexit is certainly a part of the perception of Brits abroad, and a large part of the devaluation of Sterling which is causing real issues with buying any product from abroad, including holidays.

What do other countries offer the Brits abroad?
The Weather!
Lots of people just want a pretty much guaranteed sunny holiday. What they eat or do once there is secondary to that.

There’s anecdote, and there’s evidence.
yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2019/08/30/britons-make-worst-tourists-say-britons-and-spania
This is an international survey, so it carries some weight.

Actually though, what I think Lanzarote is saying is that it wants to move away from being a party island for tourists, Brits are by far the biggest majority who visit there, but they won’t want rowdy holidaymakers from anywhere. It’s not about discriminating against the average British holidaymaker. It’s no different to what’s happening in Madeira, or for that matter Fuerteventura. As usual though, it’s been pumped up by the media into being an outrage on British sensibilities, I don’t know why some people here fall for it every time.

Oh yes, Russians, I agree. But this is not what the thread title is about, is it?

'What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?'

absolutely nothing, as I am one. But let's go back to the OP- because this is what it is all about. Many British tourists have been very embarrassed by the behaviour of some groups.

As for owners and staff- yes, we do talk to them when this kind of behaviour happens- and they tell us what they think. In Crete recently, and in Sharm-el-Sheik with a friend a few years back, and other European destinations recently. When in Slovenia last Summer, the place we rented told us they no longer rent ot Brits, and they have had too many issues with noise and unpaid damage. Sad, but true- and back to the OP.

Fleurpepper
I’m surprised you haven’t come across the Russians partying in the Ski resorts. They aren’t just annoying they are scary.
But hey ho, you just keep on bashing the brits.

MerylStreep

^Nope, that’s not what said at all^
Same meat, different gravy.

With a side of Brexit to add flavour. Bashing the UK is a pastime for some on here.

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

Are you seriously implying that it’s only British Tourists partying in these destinations?

Having been to two of them I can assure you that there are young people and families from all over the place not just the U.K. partying

Of course not- but there are just too many of them, in too many destinations. I can't blame the locals to change their clientele, to some extent. Refuse stag dos, and large groups coming together, would be a good start.

We had a holiday ruined in a good Hotel in Crete a couple of years back with a stag do- screaming, *ssed night and day, bombing people in the pool, being sick all over the places, smashing stuff up. Owners and other nationalities were not amused, and neither were we. Same in Tenerife, and ... Lanzarote. Staff were not amused either, and neither was owner. He said he would do everything to avoid such groups in future. Nothing snobbish about that.

We went to Lanzarote for the first time last year. It was towards the end of the year so it wasn't as busy as the summer holidays. We went mainly for the weather.

Being a volcanic island it isn't exactly lush and green except around the resorts. It was an interesting island. An artist called Cesar Manrique had a huge impact on the island, insisting that buildings were height restricted etc. We visited his house on the island and it was fascinating.

travelforawhile.com/lanzarote-cesar-manrique/#:~:text=Manrique%27s%20continuing%20influence&text=As%20an%20environmental%20activist%2C%20he,Lanzarote%2C%20a%20hotel%20in%20Arrecife.

You can see the impact of British tourism on the island. Personally, I don't go on holiday to go to Irish bars and eat fish and chips. I can do that at home. No offense to those who like to do this.

We went to one resort (Puerto del Carmen I think) and it was full of 'English/Irish' bars and cafes. I suppose you could say it felt a bit down market.

It sounds to me like Tenerife want to pick and chose who it finds acceptable. There are lots of hotels that look quite run down and some areas are quite scruffy. The resort we stayed in had a huge area on the prom which looked like foundations for a hotel. It was about 15 feet below ground level. It was an eyesore. Apparently it has been like that for years.

If Tenerife is being selective about tourists it needs to look to itself to make some improvements.

Prices for holidays are going up massively so maybe this would keep the undesirables (in Tenerife's eyes) out.

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

My family home was on one of the Spanish Costas, my sister went all through school in Spain.

I will disagree with you all day long Fleurpepper youngsters of all nationalities party hard, I and my immediate family have seen this with our own eyes, I still have family there.

What do you get out of slating U.K. tourists?

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

Oh, do you personally know a lot of locals in Budapest, Ibiza, Ayanapa who have told you this?

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

The locals, clearly.

Nope, that’s not what said at all
Same meat, different gravy.

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

Are you seriously implying that it’s only British Tourists partying in these destinations?

Having been to two of them I can assure you that there are young people and families from all over the place not just the U.K. partying

Urmstongran

I read once that the UK is about 20y behind the USA (think back to telephones & fridge freezers in America in the late 40’s!) and that the UK is about 10y ahead of Spain (which used to be a fairly poor country, was mostly agricultural before tourism) and I’ve truly noticed that down on the marina at Benalmádena - since Covid - that the Spanish themselves have begun to embrace hen and stag doos! Groups of Spanish young ‘uns on holidays, dressed up as is letting their hair down. Who’d’ve think it?
🤣
Look out Lanzarote!

Oh no, they'll be having baby showers next!!
😲

Fleurpepper

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

them

Which them?

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Jeezy peeps Fleurpepper I have never read so much prejudice from a poster.

Quite shocking, isn't it.

We know you dislike so many things about the UK, Fleurpepper, as is evident in so many of your posts, but labelling all British people as badly behaved is a new low.

Which people have you asked? Who? Where?

In fact, you are "othering" us all which is strange indeed as you say you are British yourself.