Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

Fleurpepper

Casdon

There’s anecdote, and there’s evidence.
yougov.co.uk/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2019/08/30/britons-make-worst-tourists-say-britons-and-spania
This is an international survey, so it carries some weight.

Actually though, what I think Lanzarote is saying is that it wants to move away from being a party island for tourists, Brits are by far the biggest majority who visit there, but they won’t want rowdy holidaymakers from anywhere. It’s not about discriminating against the average British holidaymaker. It’s no different to what’s happening in Madeira, or for that matter Fuerteventura. As usual though, it’s been pumped up by the media into being an outrage on British sensibilities, I don’t know why some people here fall for it every time.

Those so called generalisations do not come from no-where?

Backtracking? Not at all. Whether you like it or nor, it is about the value of currency, which makes some tourists more 'valuable' to resorts. Not about being rich, as individuals, but about Holiday Companies buying holidays en masse and selling them on in Sterling- which has lost hugely in value over last few years. That is a totally different story, but very real.

As said, the same applies to medicines, energy, raw materials, anything we need for production chains, etc.

So you think it is Brexit then?

Not the fact that British people aren't wanted?

We went to Lanzarote just before the pandemic. We stayed in an adults only hotel in Playa Blanca on half board. We used to go out walking most days and sunbathed in the afternoon. As it was all adults I never saw any bad behaviour or similar in our hotel. Many guests were regular returners. We’d go back. I think it all depends on the resort and the hotel you choose. It’s fairly easy to avoid the ones that attract the raucous element.

Iam64

Thank youV3ra 🌞. Your holiday experience reflects those of family and friends.
I’m perplexed Fleurpepper that despite your extensive experience of travelling, you always seem to end up surrounded by drunken ‘brits’ . Brits is usually used in a derogatory way, as it has throughout your many contributions here.

Anyone with even limited experience of travel in southern Europe knows which resorts are likely to be favoured by the cheaper end of the all inclusive gang. It’s not complicated. We usually book flights, find accommodation and had great holidays. Never fiubd ourselves in Malia (Crete) for example because we knew it wouldn’t suit us but others may love it

We went on a last minute holiday to Cyprus once, a cheapie, and were sent to just outside Ayia Napa 😲

It was lovely out of season. There was a Greek restaurant across the road.
There were a lot of Norwegians there, escaping the weather at home. I did get 'chatted up' by one when I went for a stroll 😀, he was on his own and wanted a dancing partner, but along came DH and scuppered that.

If anyone says 'English' then there is an outcry. Brit is short, and simple. Nothing rude there.

Not quite Fleurpepper.
‘Brits abroad’ include the Welsh, Scots and NI too,
English are a separate entity of the Union.

Indeedy- someone above said they did not like being called 'Brit'- so my post was in reply to that. No need to explain, thanks ;)

Callistemon, I think it is a combination of factors. Low Sterling value is one of many.

Urmstongran

^If anyone says 'English' then there is an outcry. Brit is short, and simple. Nothing rude there.^

Not quite Fleurpepper.
‘Brits abroad’ include the Welsh, Scots and NI too,
English are a separate entity of the Union.

Brits is quite offensive.

It's usually people from other countries who use it in a derogatory fashion.

I'm a Brit. No idea why you'd find it offensive.

So what term would you use. Write out 'British citizens' every time. Nothing wrong with Brit afaiac.

Ah, I understand. I was being a bit pedantic there and missing the ‘slight’.

I suppose we can all appreciate that once a place becomes popular (for whatever reason), tourists flock. Maybe over the seasons the places get spoilt. Lose their original character and locals become resentful. Understandably sometimes. It’s a hard act to balance because, especially at the beginning of the curve, tourist money is welcomed and very much appreciated. Like anything, there is probably a tipping point.

Lanzarote seems to have reached it and you could argue they are the victims of their own success.

I hope they can find a happy medium - that suits them and any visitors, going forward.

Swerving the argument above, on repeat it seems, I think the Spanish tourist people want to look at the hotels providin* cheap all inclusive holidays rather than make sweeping statements about the origin and type of tourist they want. It is the cheap offers driving the market. Put pressure on hotels to up standards and increase prices would help. We know of a couple that go to Lanza (as they call it), twice a year for three weeks each time, always all inclusive, where they lay on a sunbed and drink - lots. Perhaps that’s what they mean.

Callistemon21

Urmstongran

If anyone says 'English' then there is an outcry. Brit is short, and simple. Nothing rude there.

Not quite Fleurpepper.
‘Brits abroad’ include the Welsh, Scots and NI too,
English are a separate entity of the Union.

Brits is quite offensive.

It's usually people from other countries who use it in a derogatory fashion.

Why on earth would they do that, as all those British tourist behave impeccably. Strange, no?

I had no idea some people consider 'Brit' a derogatory term. I've often been asked if I am a Brit when I have been abroad, and quite proud to say I am, had no idea anyone was being rude.

and I have taken some rough kids from challenged backgrounds in my time
I worked over 40 years with those children and their families. I find your description of the says a great deal about your patronising attitude to people who are less fortunate than you are.

Not at all, au contraire. I have taken teenagers on trips in UK, walking, YHA, and abroad- that no-one but no-one wanted to take. I stuck my neck out, and with a few colleagues, took them away- when all others refused. For those teenagers, it made a massive difference, and I am very proud of having taken the risk, and put the effort in.

I often had to organise extra volunteers to ensure safety, for them and for others. You have NO idea.

Some with very serious disabilities too. Massive organisation and extra medical/nursing and other help. I remember parents in tears, saying thank you, as no-one had ever been prepared to take them. Two cases I am particularly thinking about- the experience was truly life-changing.

Fleurpepper

I often had to organise extra volunteers to ensure safety, for them and for others. You have NO idea.

I suspect I do have a good idea but of course, you know more than anybody else

Went to Lanzarote once, and only once.Ok -ish and warm when other places are cold but nothing much to do there.
Like another poster said, no real history or culture there, just for the lying on a sunbed with a drink in hand or reading a book or pottering about types. A week was more than enough.
On the other hand I could holiday in Spain or Italy for years.

It is interesting when you think about it. Italy is one of the most popular tourist destinations in Europe, but it’s never built tourist hotels/beach resorts to the model Spain, Portugal and Greece have, most hotels are still small chains or family run - with all the quirks that go with that. Italy attracts a different type of tourist, and that’s probably why. (It’s also expensive).

Iam64

Fleurpepper

I often had to organise extra volunteers to ensure safety, for them and for others. You have NO idea.

I suspect I do have a good idea but of course, you know more than anybody else

This is so nasty and unpleasant. Of course I know more than anybody else what I did and the reasons why- strangely enough!

Lots of YHA week-ends with sponsors, for those who could not go on other trips. In our own time. Trips during holiday time too. Camping overnight in our garden with lots of activities, for kids who were not allowed to go away for cultural or religious reasons. Driving minibus all over Europe, organising work-experience for our 6th formers, which took days of free time to organise, and so so much more. Yes, I know, more than you or anyone else does- what I did. 100% guaranteed.

Fleurpepper

Iam64

Fleurpepper

I often had to organise extra volunteers to ensure safety, for them and for others. You have NO idea.

I suspect I do have a good idea but of course, you know more than anybody else

This is so nasty and unpleasant. Of course I know more than anybody else what I did and the reasons why- strangely enough!

Lots of YHA week-ends with sponsors, for those who could not go on other trips. In our own time. Trips during holiday time too. Camping overnight in our garden with lots of activities, for kids who were not allowed to go away for cultural or religious reasons. Driving minibus all over Europe, organising work-experience for our 6th formers, which took days of free time to organise, and so so much more. Yes, I know, more than you or anyone else does- what I did. 100% guaranteed.

What’s this squabble got to do with the original post. What has it got to do with Lanzarote or the impression held about British tourists. Enough, I’d say, it’s become childish now.

It has nothing to do with it- of course. But I am being accused and attacked, and I am not having it. thanks.

It's the same old, same old from all the usual individuals. Predictable, boring and a bit pathetic.

AreWeThereYet

I had no idea some people consider 'Brit' a derogatory term. I've often been asked if I am a Brit when I have been abroad, and quite proud to say I am, had no idea anyone was being rude.

It is, believe me although it seems to have become mainstream now, unfortunately.

Don’t encourage the argument, please!