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WW 3 ..is this the reality?

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Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 15:41:48

Looking at TV coverage ...I'm feeling anxious that the more we send/spend on helping Ukraine, we're cooperating am not saying we shouldn't but just thinking how others feel about how far we go..we're already in crisis with NHS and need of financial assistance for cost of living assistance and this is too much for people's mental health sad

M0nica Sat 11-Feb-23 08:22:19

Sorrry, I did not mean to sound unsympathetic, but I just felt that sometimes people are given to making sweeping statements, that do not make sense.

I have every sympathy for the OP, in he anxieties, but I feel they are probably more focussed than her OP suggests. Plus the practical pointt hat one can do more to help those in need and unhappiness, by concentrating on doing what we can for a group we can help, rather than worry diffusely about everyone distressed and do nothing for any.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-Feb-23 23:25:22

will keep away from the news

I did suggest to Bea65 that it might be better if she didn't watch the news but, if her MH is being affected, obviously there are deeper problems and she needs to see her GP.

NanKate Fri 10-Feb-23 23:22:23

If Putin is allowed to win, where will he invade next ? He has to be stopped and we need to give all the help we can to Ukraine, including fighter jets.

After the war is over we need to replenish our armed forces and fast.

biglouis Fri 10-Feb-23 23:21:40

Ive stopped watching Ukraine long ago and have now stopped watching the news on Syria and Turkey. Its a part of the world Ive visited (especially Syria) and I find it too harrowing. The news broadcasts (especially SKY) are treating this as vicarious entertainment and focusing far too much on showing the grief of individual people. I made a donation and will keep away from the news and concentrate on something more positive.

DaisyAnne Fri 10-Feb-23 23:13:27

M0nica

^Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help^

In which case, your mental state must be desperate. There are millions, if not a billion people at least in need of help world wide, suffering from all kinds of problems rising from every kind of cause you can imagine. From abuse of all kinds malnutrition, depression, war, terrorism, losing their cat, ruined something of deep sentimental valley.

Where does the list of reasons people need help and the number suffering end.

It could be making the OP anxious M0nica. All sorts of things can trigger anxiety and stress. However, the first thing a doctor would say to someone who can say, so specifically, what is making them feel anxious is "move away from the source". I notice the OP has stopped posting so perhaps she is seeking help.

As for treating people with anxiety, stress, etc., the earlier you do the more money you will save and the more people will go back to work. I would have thought that was right up your street.

maddyone Fri 10-Feb-23 22:56:02

Well said Monica. I’m not sure how the situation is totally different from the thirties, in my opinion it’s very similar; a power crazy leader from a totalitarian state who wants to grab more land and power for himself. A vain, conceited and arrogant leader who cares nothing for his people or his soldiers dying on the battlefield, nor the people of the states he wishes to conquer. A bully who wishes to subjugate the citizens of other countries and build an empire for himself. And many people who simply don’t believe his intentions and prefer to put their heads in the sand.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 22:01:10

History never repeats itself exactly, but the same danger is there

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Feb-23 20:11:02

Indeed. But the situation was totally different then.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 19:40:41

Looking at TV coverage ...I'm feeling anxious that the more we send/spend on helping Ukraine, we're cooperating am not saying we shouldn't but just thinking how others feel about how far we go..we're already in crisis with NHS and need of financial assistance for cost of living assistance and this is too much for people's mental health

In 1938 our prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain called the conflict between Nazi Germany and Czechoslovakia a "quarrel in a far away country, between people of whom we know nothing.”

Less than two years later, the Nazis were bombing London.

It is to avoid history repeating itself that we are supporting Ukraine.

MerylStreep Fri 10-Feb-23 19:30:47

Grantonow
We were far closer to a nuclear war in 1983. I knew about this story some years ago as my dearest long time friend was on a nuclear sub involved in this. That sub went to red alert twice in this little tussle as he calls it.

www.airandspaceforces.com/article/the-near-nuclear-war-of-1983/

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Feb-23 19:19:49

Callistemon21

Oh, you said Turkey and Syria.

Did you mean Ukraine?

No, I meant that the terrible unbearable suffering of people affected by the awful earthquakes- acutally make no difference to the real danger we all find ourselves in due to Putin's war.

However awful their suffering is- makes not difference, in real terms, tragically, when it comes to the risk of escalation by Putin as a reaction to the West providing more arms, be they tanks or planes.

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Feb-23 19:12:34

The OP is about the reality. It is not me that is raising the temperature. Pretending the situation is not very serious is delusional and totally unrealistic.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 19:04:26

value not valley.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 19:04:06

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help

In which case, your mental state must be desperate. There are millions, if not a billion people at least in need of help world wide, suffering from all kinds of problems rising from every kind of cause you can imagine. From abuse of all kinds malnutrition, depression, war, terrorism, losing their cat, ruined something of deep sentimental valley.

Where does the list of reasons people need help and the number suffering end.

DaisyAnne Thu 09-Feb-23 22:12:30

Bea65

Looking at TV coverage ...I'm feeling anxious that the more we send/spend on helping Ukraine, we're cooperating am not saying we shouldn't but just thinking how others feel about how far we go..we're already in crisis with NHS and need of financial assistance for cost of living assistance and this is too much for people's mental health sad

blush blush blush Sorry ... I clicked the wrong quote. My last post was to the OP NOT Riverwalk.

DaisyAnne Thu 09-Feb-23 22:09:41

Riverwalk

No, WW3 is not the reality, in my opinion.

I'm sure the people of Ukraine, Turkey and Syria are the ones whose mental health might be suffering.

It obviously isn't true at the moment or in the immediate future Riverwalk, I think you need to book a visit (or call) to your doctor. Anxiety isn't difficult to deal with if you ask for help early on and take the help that is offered.

What you should not be doing is raising the levels of other people's anxiety; please get help, in private, from a professional.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 22:03:32

Elegran well said.

👏👏👏

Oreo Thu 09-Feb-23 21:51:38

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Elegran to both your posts.

Elegran Thu 09-Feb-23 21:48:09

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

Fleurpepper no-one is denying the seriousness of the various situations around the world, natural or manmade, but encouraging anxious people into panic mode about them isn't doing anyone any favours, either those in the countries or those worrying about them from other countries. Stop raising the temperature and the air pressure!!

Elegran Thu 09-Feb-23 21:41:24

Bea65

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help -

Having empathy for anyone in need of help is NOT the equivalent of being in such desperate need of help yourself and not getting it that your mental health is suffering. Thinking that because it upsets you to think of someone needing that help you also suffer about it as badly as they do is a fallacy. It is sheer self-centredness to focus so on your own emotions.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 21:37:51

Oh, you said Turkey and Syria.

Did you mean Ukraine?

Fleurpepper Thu 09-Feb-23 21:19:45

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

The earthquakes and the aftermath are truly shocking but I doubt we would have one on this scale here in the UK. The fault lines beneath the UK are ancient and not as active as some in other parts of the world

It's scaremongering to suggest otherwise..

I do remember when there was a tremor here years ago, but that was all it was.

Unlike the person who mentionned the very minor earth tremor in Blackpool, this is NOT at all what I am talking about, but the OP. A totally different story.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 20:29:56

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

The earthquakes and the aftermath are truly shocking but I doubt we would have one on this scale here in the UK. The fault lines beneath the UK are ancient and not as active as some in other parts of the world

It's scaremongering to suggest otherwise..

I do remember when there was a tremor here years ago, but that was all it was.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 20:25:36

Best not to watch the news, Bea65

Some people seem to have the 24 hour news on all day and evening and it's not surprising their anxiety levels rise proportionately.

Fleurpepper Thu 09-Feb-23 18:15:56

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.