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WW 3 ..is this the reality?

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Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 15:41:48

Looking at TV coverage ...I'm feeling anxious that the more we send/spend on helping Ukraine, we're cooperating am not saying we shouldn't but just thinking how others feel about how far we go..we're already in crisis with NHS and need of financial assistance for cost of living assistance and this is too much for people's mental health sad

Riverwalk Thu 09-Feb-23 16:12:16

No, WW3 is not the reality, in my opinion.

I'm sure the people of Ukraine, Turkey and Syria are the ones whose mental health might be suffering.

Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 16:17:12

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help -

AGAA4 Thu 09-Feb-23 16:18:03

If Russia wins in Ukraine what could happen next? Putin wants the USSR back and if he tries to take back NATO countries it will be WW3.

Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 16:19:40

It’s coming up to the anniversary and feel concerned that Putin had awful planπŸ₯²

Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 16:20:14

HAS

Bea65 Thu 09-Feb-23 16:20:53

Has Awful

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 17:06:22

Bea65

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help -

I expect you're anxious, Putin is unpredictable.
It's a worrying time.

However, people in Ukraine are the ones suffering, we may feel empathy but we are not living the reality.

I may feel anguished when I see those people in Turkey and Syria but I am not living their reality either.

We can only do what we can to help such as make donations; if we can't do that perhaps we can send unwanted goods to our nearest Red Cross or Oxfam shop.

"Don't meet trouble halfway" is a good adage.

Grantanow Thu 09-Feb-23 17:20:29

No. We are much further from WW3 than we were in 1962 at the height of the Cuban missile crisis when most of the Left, CND, etc., swallowed Soviet assurances there were no missiles only to be embarrassed after a few weeks by the aerial photographs showing them in place. Well handled by JFK and Robert McNamara and a careful back down by Kruschev. I doubt any jets will be sent to Ukraine by the UK unless they are tokens. Long training and limited supplies!

eazybee Thu 09-Feb-23 17:59:00

Mental health is a term that is used far too lightly.
Anxiety describes your feelings, Bea.

Fleurpepper Thu 09-Feb-23 18:15:56

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 20:25:36

Best not to watch the news, Bea65

Some people seem to have the 24 hour news on all day and evening and it's not surprising their anxiety levels rise proportionately.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 20:29:56

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

The earthquakes and the aftermath are truly shocking but I doubt we would have one on this scale here in the UK. The fault lines beneath the UK are ancient and not as active as some in other parts of the world

It's scaremongering to suggest otherwise..

I do remember when there was a tremor here years ago, but that was all it was.

Fleurpepper Thu 09-Feb-23 21:19:45

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

The earthquakes and the aftermath are truly shocking but I doubt we would have one on this scale here in the UK. The fault lines beneath the UK are ancient and not as active as some in other parts of the world

It's scaremongering to suggest otherwise..

I do remember when there was a tremor here years ago, but that was all it was.

Unlike the person who mentionned the very minor earth tremor in Blackpool, this is NOT at all what I am talking about, but the OP. A totally different story.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 21:37:51

Oh, you said Turkey and Syria.

Did you mean Ukraine?

Elegran Thu 09-Feb-23 21:41:24

Bea65

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help -

Having empathy for anyone in need of help is NOT the equivalent of being in such desperate need of help yourself and not getting it that your mental health is suffering. Thinking that because it upsets you to think of someone needing that help you also suffer about it as badly as they do is a fallacy. It is sheer self-centredness to focus so on your own emotions.

Elegran Thu 09-Feb-23 21:48:09

Fleurpepper

The terrible, unbelievable suffering of the Syrian and Turquish people makes the reality of the hugely dangerous we are finding ourselves now. How anyone can't see this, is unbelievable.

eazybee- there is fine line- who is anyone to say when it is crossed, between anxiety and and worse.

Fleurpepper no-one is denying the seriousness of the various situations around the world, natural or manmade, but encouraging anxious people into panic mode about them isn't doing anyone any favours, either those in the countries or those worrying about them from other countries. Stop raising the temperature and the air pressure!!

Oreo Thu 09-Feb-23 21:51:38

πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»Elegran to both your posts.

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 22:03:32

Elegran well said.

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DaisyAnne Thu 09-Feb-23 22:09:41

Riverwalk

No, WW3 is not the reality, in my opinion.

I'm sure the people of Ukraine, Turkey and Syria are the ones whose mental health might be suffering.

It obviously isn't true at the moment or in the immediate future Riverwalk, I think you need to book a visit (or call) to your doctor. Anxiety isn't difficult to deal with if you ask for help early on and take the help that is offered.

What you should not be doing is raising the levels of other people's anxiety; please get help, in private, from a professional.

DaisyAnne Thu 09-Feb-23 22:12:30

Bea65

Looking at TV coverage ...I'm feeling anxious that the more we send/spend on helping Ukraine, we're cooperating am not saying we shouldn't but just thinking how others feel about how far we go..we're already in crisis with NHS and need of financial assistance for cost of living assistance and this is too much for people's mental health sad

blush blush blush Sorry ... I clicked the wrong quote. My last post was to the OP NOT Riverwalk.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 19:04:06

Well my mental health is suffering as have empathy for anyone in need of help

In which case, your mental state must be desperate. There are millions, if not a billion people at least in need of help world wide, suffering from all kinds of problems rising from every kind of cause you can imagine. From abuse of all kinds malnutrition, depression, war, terrorism, losing their cat, ruined something of deep sentimental valley.

Where does the list of reasons people need help and the number suffering end.

M0nica Fri 10-Feb-23 19:04:26

value not valley.

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Feb-23 19:12:34

The OP is about the reality. It is not me that is raising the temperature. Pretending the situation is not very serious is delusional and totally unrealistic.

Fleurpepper Fri 10-Feb-23 19:19:49

Callistemon21

Oh, you said Turkey and Syria.

Did you mean Ukraine?

No, I meant that the terrible unbearable suffering of people affected by the awful earthquakes- acutally make no difference to the real danger we all find ourselves in due to Putin's war.

However awful their suffering is- makes not difference, in real terms, tragically, when it comes to the risk of escalation by Putin as a reaction to the West providing more arms, be they tanks or planes.