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No money in Government coffers - really?

(66 Posts)
maddyone Fri 10-Feb-23 11:25:18

I don’t resent a penny of the aid going to Ukraine, Turkey or Syria. They need our help.

maddyone Fri 10-Feb-23 11:24:12

What pains in the asses the U.K. is

There are so many things wrong with the UK but I’d still rather live here than elsewhere. This has been reinforced for me because we have just returned from a two month visit to New Zealand. We had some lovely times and some less so, but I was excited to be returning to my home. I’m an English girl born and bred, and although I love to travel and have been lucky enough to travel widely, I still love my homeland. Governments come and go, they do good and bad and the situation here at the moment is not great, but I dislike all the hatred expressed on Gransnet for our homeland. The UK is still a good place to live despite all. After our long flight my husband had a suspected DVT. He was seen and checked at the hospital the same day. Luckily it turned not to be so.

Happygirl79 Fri 10-Feb-23 11:04:43

What the government really mean is that the money is earmarked for their donors, their backhanders (given out under the guise of payments for speeches) etc. They have no intention of handing money over to the working people

Whitewavemark2 Fri 10-Feb-23 10:57:55

There is always one😄

biglouis Fri 10-Feb-23 10:54:52

Isn't it funny how there is always money to be found down the back of the sofa to help Ukraine and others, house illegal immigrants in luxury hotels and pay for a lavish coronation with all its mystical religious mumbo jumbo. Yet there is not the money to give essential workers a living wage or ensure that vulnerable people are not cold and hungry. These would be the first three things I would cancel if I was PM.

I have always believed in looking after your own before you dole out to strangers.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 10-Feb-23 10:50:57

Oh and the MPs pay rise and money for expenses like their domestic fuel bills.

I’m not sure about the fraud case but I do know that the U.K. owe Brussels billions because we flooded their market with cheap Chinese tat because we failed to carry out proper checks.

What pains in the asses the U.K. is.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-Feb-23 10:50:37

Yes, I know.

But they do set the budgets so taking from one budget, eg Defence and swapping it to Health isn't going to happen.

They can find more money for the NHS of course but not if they keep giving away PB prizes!
£50 this month (already disposed of).

MaizieD Fri 10-Feb-23 10:47:03

Callistemon21

🤔
Um, different budgets?

Premium Bonds. Just keep on buying those Premium Bonds and we'll be fine grin

Well, you know what I'm really going to say, don't you?
We have a sovereign currency and the government can create money any time it wants to; for any purpose. (All economists know this.)

Government refusal to pay better public sector wages is economically illiterate, but an ideological choice, as others have pointed out.

Of course they will find the money to pay for things they want to pay for.

Callistemon21 Fri 10-Feb-23 10:25:19

🤔
Um, different budgets?

Ilovecheese Fri 10-Feb-23 10:23:36

Oh they can always find money for weapons.

Grantanow Fri 10-Feb-23 10:16:37

And where is the money to help Ukraine and Turkey/Syria coming from? If the Tories can find that they can find it too for the NHS and other desperate needs.

Casdon Thu 09-Feb-23 21:34:48

The basic explanation is that this government believes in small state, ie minimum public services. They don’t want to spend more money on them, because that’s going to slow down the contraction in public service employees, as less staff will leave if they earn a decent salary.

Chapeau Thu 09-Feb-23 21:19:33

MaizieD Not at all but isn't that what we're being told...repeatedly? I was just a bit narked to see that there was money available to settle a fraud case which appears to be of the government's making. Like I said, I may be missing something here!

MaizieD Thu 09-Feb-23 21:08:22

Callistemon21

MaizieD where are you??

I'm here, smiling sweetly...😇

I don't think that the OP really believes the coffers are empty. Do you?

Callistemon21 Thu 09-Feb-23 20:52:48

MaizieD where are you??

Chapeau Thu 09-Feb-23 20:46:37

I may be missing something but I was under the impression that there was no money for anything in the government coffers. No money to pay even the smallest percentage of increases for nurses, teachers, ambulance crews etc etc. No money to increase cost of living payments to the disabled or money to increase childcare facilities. Am I right so far? Well, if this is the case then I'd really like to know where the money came from to settle an import fraud case with the EU.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64587483