Is there no end to Johnson's high self regard and vanity?

Oreo

Find myself wondering if Mrs Sunak likes the gold wallpaper.

Mr and Mrs Sunak live in the 10 Downing Street flat and have paid for their own redecorating. Mr and Mrs Hunt are in the Johnson’s former flat.

M0nica

hugshelp and a lot of those you name were able to commit their crimes because they were convincing liars, cheats and conmen.

You could add to that list a whole host of political dictators from Hitler and Stalin to Castro and Peron and Papa Doc, not to mention every other tinpot dictator known to bad government world wide. They got into power because they had charisma and then, at best, ruined the economy of the country they governed and plunged its people into poverty, or turned out to be a vicious violent and corrupt megalomaniacs who lined the pockets of their family and associates to the ruin of their country.

Is this what you had in mind GrammyGrammy?

Mmm. Who does that sound like ...

MaizieD

*Because the Telegraph is read by officers, the Daily Mail by soldiers. If only life were so simple.^

Fascinating. I know several ex soldiers, including officers. Their view of Johnson is not a rosy one..

It’s about a disciplined existence. Conforming to a set of rules. Understanding that you have to follow those rules even when you don’t like them.

Well, that totally eliminates the top party goer of 2021, then, doesn't it? 😂

Wasn’t it Tom Tugendhat, during the leadership election, that said Johnson was a liar? And doesn’t he have links to the military?

Does Putin have charisma then? It’s eluded me if he has.
I’m not sure you can reasonably compare Johnson to Hitler, Stalin, or Castro, or indeed Putin. We all are fully aware of the things Johnson did or didn’t do that he should have or shouldn’t have done, but if comparisons of him and Hitler or Stalin or Putin are made, then I’m afraid the discussion descends into the ridiculous and isn’t worth wasting time on.

Conforming to a set of rules, yes, we know he doesn’t do that. That’s a justified criticism.

maddyone You misunderstood. I made no comparison. It was a response to GrammyGrammy who wanted Boris back because he had charisma. I was merely pointing out that the people I mentioned had charisma, as well as the villains mentioned by another poster.

We were simply pointing out charisma, of itself, is meaningless. It is the qualities that go with it that make the good politician or saint.

As for Putin, he came up through the system and the secret service. He didn't need charisma, just ruthlessness and a willingness to dispose of the opposition and reward his supporters generously.

Russia has no experience of democracy. Elections have always been rigged by controlling, by means, fair or foul, who stands in elections and their access to the media.

Pity Boris has teeth.

Otherwise he could apply for the job 'Worlds Biggest A**hole'.

And get it.

Vintagenonna

Pity Boris has teeth.

Otherwise he could apply for the job 'Worlds Biggest A**hole'.

And get it.

Oooooh, clutch my pearls!

Might just appeal to the masochistic tendency, Vintenonna