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The King evicts Harry and his wife from Frogmore!

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lemsip Wed 01-Mar-23 11:52:10

The King has reportedly evicted Prince Harry and Meghan Markle from Frogmore Cottage, their residence in Windsor. Buckingham Palace let the Duke and www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1740755/royal-family-meghan-markle-prince-harry-frogmore-cottage-king-charles of Susses know about the plan to take away the property from them just days after Harry's tell-all memoir, Spare, was published worldwide, it has been claimed.

Chestnut Mon 06-Mar-23 14:18:51

Harry does look a lot like James Hewitt except for one thing. He has Charles's eyes, and it's very distinctive when you look closely. The likeness to Hewitt is very unfortunate though, because it leaves an element of doubt.

Jaberwok Mon 06-Mar-23 13:59:28

Oh dear, a real ttangled web. I agree about Diana, she at times appeared to use her sons as weapons against their father, using William as an emotional prop, and encouraging Harry to be naughty,but not to get found out, not good for young children. I think Harry is the Kings son, BUT, his behaviour and apparent dislike of his father does make you wonder!

Anniebach Mon 06-Mar-23 13:50:05

Diana definitely had mental health problems, eating disorder,
pushing her step mother down a staircase, throwing herself down a staircase, cutting off from her mother and siblings and I never believed her claims that Charles said when Harry was born ‘another boy and he has ginger hair’. Her dislike of Tiggy and the lies she told.

fancythat Mon 06-Mar-23 13:44:40

The more people that post pictures of James Hewitt, the more I wonder whether he is a Royal.
I dont want to think that, and could be very wrong.
But it would explain a whole heap of things.

eazybee Mon 06-Mar-23 13:32:36

Harry's mother played her part in this. She is frequently described as being 'a wonderful mother who adored her boys'. Doting mothers are not necessarily good mothers, and there seems more than a hint that she played one son against the other, and both against their father.

I realise the Wales' divorce was extremely high profile, but Diana exploited it and did not, in my opinion as a divorced mother, do much to protect her children from her raging emotions.

The children of Princess Margaret and Anne, Prince Andrew and other divorced royal couples do not seem to have suffered unduly, and appear as affectionate members of their families. If there is fallout, they keep it to themselves.

Harry seeks to fight his mother's battles all over again as a means of winning her approval.
Dangerous ground. He is never going to move on.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 06-Mar-23 13:24:31

Yes, I agree Jaberwok. I believe Meghan is largely responsible for who he is today - and I don’t mean that as a compliment to either of them.

Jaberwok Mon 06-Mar-23 13:12:00

Gsm, I think Harry has become a lot worse since his marriage. Whereas Catherine and her family have helped and supported William to become the man he now is, Harry's wife seems to have done the complete opposite.

Jaberwok Mon 06-Mar-23 13:08:15

Surely another worry is that the public discussion and apparent good feeling that prohibited drugs gave is going to provide a green light to other drug uusers and be a boost to the illegal drug trade. What makes this foolish man tick? Can't he see the potential damage he's doing to other people? I should think that the King and P.W are in despair at what this damaged insensitive man will say next.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 06-Mar-23 12:38:50

His MH weren’t sufficiently serious to prevent him from flying helicopters in Afghanistan. He would have been carefully observed before being allowed to do that. His drug taking (still ongoing it seems) won’t have helped his MH and he’s been indulging in years of navel-gazing with therapists to no apparent effect..

25Avalon Mon 06-Mar-23 12:12:39

It seems he has had mental health issues over the years which King Charles and Prince William are well aware of. Yes difficult and painful for them to cope with but I think they probably understand more than we know.

maddyone Mon 06-Mar-23 12:08:01

Anniebach

With some mental illnesses the sufferer can be abusive, it’s the illness not the sufferer being abusive. If Harry did have a mental illness which causes abuse he would abuse his wife too.

But extremely difficult and painful if you are the family member who’s on the receiving end of the nastiness as Harry’s father and brother are. It’s difficult to cope with and very, very painful.

Jaberwok Mon 06-Mar-23 12:04:19

Perhaps he does Annie, as this is something we wouldn't be hearing about. His wife seems to be keeping a particularly low profile at the moment so who knows what's going on behind those curtains. We see no evidence of family life, or much togetherness except for money making purposes. Why Harry is now saying that his problems are partly due to lack of parental affection is absurd as, like the bike riding, there are plenty of photos showing Charles hugging both his sons as well as one with Charles holding Harry's hand looking at Diana's flowers. Its so unfair on the King to lie about this sort of thing .just horrid. Presumably he had just on 13 years of hugs from his mother,so not completely devoid of affection. Apparently Diana was fonder of him than Prince William ?! Why is he being so nasty? It's beyond me.

Anniebach Mon 06-Mar-23 11:29:41

With some mental illnesses the sufferer can be abusive, it’s the illness not the sufferer being abusive. If Harry did have a mental illness which causes abuse he would abuse his wife too.

Callistemon21 Mon 06-Mar-23 11:14:55

I just think he is consumed with bitterness, jealousy and resentment.
Even the title of his book is indicative of this.

It's very sad for everyone and he should surely be thankful and relieved that he has been spared the burden that his brother faces.
I didn't blame him at all for leaving all that behind but he has sought publicity at every turn, not for his causes but for himself.

He needs to take a big step back, go for therapy and learn to be happy for everything he does have in life. He found a woman who loves him, has two lovely children, plenty of money, thanks to his "awful" family, a home and choices.
So many people in this world would be thankful for a tenth of what he has.

I know that is not easy if he does have severe MH problems but this is not helping him to achieve health. He can afford private therapy from a reputable practitioner but even that, it seems, has to be in the public domain. If anyone wants to pay.

He is his own worst enemy.

Joseanne Mon 06-Mar-23 10:48:30

flowers maddyone
Yet, there are many (on GN) who suffer MH problems yet are always so kind to others. I guess everyone is different.

maddyone Mon 06-Mar-23 10:40:30

A relative of mine has had mental health problems for over thirty years and she is verbally abusive towards family members and horribly unkind, even towards her parents in the months and weeks before their deaths. It can happen and it’s absolutely terrible for the family involved. Harry may have mental health problems that manifest themselves in this way, but I can’t say he has or he hadn’t as I don’t know. I just know severe nastiness to family members can be a symptom of mental health issues.

Joseanne Mon 06-Mar-23 09:45:07

I don't have any MH issues, but I assume that if you do, you can still be kind and loving towards members of your family? And not mock others' disabilities?
Or maybe you use it as an excuse to be all the more horrible?

Sparklefizz Mon 06-Mar-23 08:10:48

I don't think Harry has necessarily done the mental health causes any favour at all by his prattling on. He claims to have had therapy for 2 decades yet many are of the opinion (including me) that it hasn't worked.

Mollygo Sun 05-Mar-23 22:55:10

Katie59

Well he doesn’t seem to suffer from attention deficit he’s been steadfast in criticizing his family
Hyperactivity, not that Ive noticed

Just a jealous self-pitying sibling, is that a disorder?.

I was pleased at first when he raised awareness of mental health issues, but cynically I wonder if he now wants attention for something else. If he was taking medication for ADHD he wouldn’t have been able to be a pilot.

merlotgran Sun 05-Mar-23 22:30:50

H & M have been offered the flat at Buckingham Palace as a place to stay on the odd occasions they grace us with their presence, so they won't be slumming it poor dears. Generous of the King considering their constant whining and trashing

I’d say it’s a canny move to put a distance between them and the Waleses.

Be a bit lonely rattling around Buck House on their own - apart from the builders and decorators of course.

Jaberwok Sun 05-Mar-23 22:03:08

I think Royal Lodge has 30 rooms not 30 bedrooms. H & M have been offered the flat at Buckingham Palace as a place to stay on the odd occasions they grace us with their presence, so they won't be slumming it poor dears. Generous of the King considering their constant whining and trashing. I'd have told them to use a hotel like other visiting royalty do.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sun 05-Mar-23 19:24:38

I wish they would just "Shut up"and go away. Many people are having to choose between eating or heating. I feel so sorry for them all. I doubt, very much, that these two have to choose. 2 spoiled brats!

Katie59 Sun 05-Mar-23 19:09:42

Well he doesn’t seem to suffer from attention deficit he’s been steadfast in criticizing his family
Hyperactivity, not that Ive noticed

Just a jealous self-pitying sibling, is that a disorder?.

Callistemon21 Sun 05-Mar-23 17:05:26

Apologies, Norah, I should have read more carefully, I saw age 14 and thought it was a DGS.

Norah Sun 05-Mar-23 17:02:21

Callistemon21

I know some people have ADHD and I'm glad you DGS got a proper diagnosis and help, Norah.
DD works with children who have ADHD, autism.

I'm just questioning Harry's self-diagnosis confirmed by a doctor in an interview on television which we can all witness if we pay £17.99!

You misunderstood: of course I am not saying drug-taking is the cause of ADHD but the obverse, that drug-taking can cause long-term problems.
Harry has told us he took drugs and this can, like alcohol, we know, give problems even after coming off them, causing ADHD-like symptoms.

Not GS, our SIL. We know only what he has told us. Nothing more.

It appears the tablets help his ADHD symptoms. I understood what you meant about drugs, I clarified my knowledge base.