The King evicts Harry and his wife from Frogmore!

imaround

I also should say that I wonder about the cycle of drugs/ADHD.

Is the drugs causing the ADHD symptoms or is there to much self medicating happening and ADHD was already there but then the self medicating makes it worse?

🤔 chicken or egg situation?

I am interested what your daughter thinks about the research coming out on gut health in terms of Autism and Parkinson's? But that is for a different thread I suppose.

I saw something in passing about this, must investigate further.
She is very aware of gut health for other reasons.

Joseanne

I'm sure Harry's expensive education would have already diagnosed it anyway. I can't see why this guy seems to think he has made a revelation? It's all wrong, especially in public.

Apart from testing, reading his written answers, observation - how or why could his school, expensive or not, "diagnose it anyway"?

Ugh grammer. Sorry

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I also should say that I wonder about the cycle of drugs/ADHD.

Is the drugs causing the ADHD symptoms or is there to much self medicating happening and ADHD was already there but then the self medicating makes it worse?

I am definitely questioning it as well Calliste. That is why I wonder if they have met previously and had sessions.

I have never heard of long term drug use causing ADHD like symptoms, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen of course just that I haven't heard of it.

I am interested what your daughter thinks about the research coming out on gut health in terms of Autism and Parkinson's? But that is for a different thread I suppose.

I know some people have ADHD and I'm glad you DGS got a proper diagnosis and help, Norah.
DD works with children who have ADHD, autism.

I'm just questioning Harry's self-diagnosis confirmed by a doctor in an interview on television which we can all witness if we pay £17.99!

You misunderstood: of course I am not saying drug-taking is the cause of ADHD but the obverse, that drug-taking can cause long-term problems.
Harry has told us he took drugs and this can, like alcohol, we know, give problems even after coming off them, causing ADHD-like symptoms.

Drugs do not cause ADHD. In fact the #1 medicine that is prescribed for ADHD is amphetamines. My kids weren't even offered non-stimulants until we exhausted all the stimulants available. Many people with undiagnosed ADHD self medicate with legal (and illegal) substances because it helps them.

And yes, I know this because I and both of my children have been diagnosed with ADHD. We all also have comorbid anxiety and OCD. It all lives in the same place in the brain.

That is why I am interested in Mate's take on ADHD. Not enough to buy his book, but I may see what I can find online.

I'm sure Harry's expensive education would have already diagnosed it anyway. I can't see why this guy seems to think he has made a revelation? It's all wrong, especially in public.

Here in the US, until several years ago, ADHD testing was done by a self reporting method where the patient, parents and teachers would fill out a form. Now there is a computerized test that takes less than 30 minutes.

Did anyone actually watch the interview? I wonder if Gabor and Harry have met privately previously or if this is the first time? So many questions I would have before forming an opinion on this. Which I will never have answered really because I didn't watch it and wont ever see it.

Callistemon21

Norah

If he brings understanding to ADHD well done him.

Do you think he is, though? Helping? Or hindering the cause of those who have more, very real problems but are unable to access help?
And does self-diagnosis count?

Or is it a result of drug-taking when he was younger? He's lucky that he seems to have come through relatively unscathed.

We've a SIL with ADHD. He tells that he was diagnosed at 14, by testing, reading his written answers, observation. He takes tablets.

I'm not his mum, I've no idea if he took drugs younger.

He has real problems; concentration, procrastination, distraction.

Joseanne

Norah

If he brings understanding to ADHD well done him.

Maybe, Norah, but my concern would be that every parent in the land will now think anybody can diagnose ADHD in under an hour of listening, or reading some drivel when it usually takes several hours of observation, assessments, tests etc.
If not, this guy should offer his knack of instantly diagnosing ADHD to every school, everywhere, and save us a lot of money!

Well said Joseanne

I would bet that the majority of us have one or perhaps more symptoms of ADHD.

I am interested in learning more about Mate's viewpoint on ADHD. I didn't watch the interview so I cant comment on that. But I can say that and psychedelics are being tested in veterans with PTSD here in the US with excellent results and I know many people who use marijuana to help with symptoms of ADHD.

Though there is a fine line between treatment and self medicating and knowing when one crosses that line is key.

Norah

If he brings understanding to ADHD well done him.

Maybe, Norah, but my concern would be that every parent in the land will now think anybody can diagnose ADHD in under an hour of listening, or reading some drivel when it usually takes several hours of observation, assessments, tests etc.
If not, this guy should offer his knack of instantly diagnosing ADHD to every school, everywhere, and save us a lot of money!

Norah

If he brings understanding to ADHD well done him.

Do you think he is, though? Helping? Or hindering the cause of those who have more, very real problems but are unable to access help?
And does self-diagnosis count?

Or is it a result of drug-taking when he was younger? He's lucky that he seems to have come through relatively unscathed.

maddyone

Nope, I wouldn’t pay to watch Harry do anything. Boring person with only one tale to tell, poor him!

Just wish he’d go off with his ‘tale’ between his legs!

If he brings understanding to ADHD well done him.

I just don't understand why so much hate?

I was told the true sign of a narcissist is having no shame.
What ever they do they never think in terms of shame or embarrassment.

Could there be anything more degrading than selling your 'therapy' session on line?

Probably, and HM will undoubtedly go there.

Jaxjacky

£17.99 plus a ‘free’ copy of his book 🙂.

The latest in BOGOFs!

Nope, I wouldn’t pay to watch Harry do anything. Boring person with only one tale to tell, poor him!

Nobody that much!

Gsm. 😀😁😂🤔

What a bargain. Who do you hate enough to save the book for their Christmas/next birthday present?

£17.99 plus a ‘free’ copy of his book 🙂.

£17 to watch that? You can’t be serious!