Boy handcuffed in Superdrug targeted because of his race, mother says

Does anyone know the outcome of this story?

Throwing anyone to the floor and sitting on them is excessive force and IMO assault, especially to youngsters. I think the mother should sue the security company. This is disgusting behaviour especially in view of the Keith Floyd incident.. haven't any lessons been learnt..

Just saw this list resurrected, wondered what the outcome was if the boy arrested.
Garajo, I feel the same about a black youngster dying in police custody at as a white boy. The inference from you is that most of us are racists.
If you look at the figures of those convicted of a criminal act and serving time in prison that are black you will see how proportionally high that percentage is.
The black people I know are law abiding.
It's so easy to print these emotive headline without knowing the facts and I hope the whole episode was filmed, it should be.. Being black hasn't stopped the mother of this boy getting on in life. I believe in equality not preferential treatment. If you have been in these shops, struggling to survive being descended on by students milling around openly taking things they are hardly little victims, black and white just the sane..The shop assistants have to stand by and do nothing as they would get hurt, they are doing a job and it's not policing shoplifters. A man in our local H and M walked out the door carrying loads of clothes in his arms , there were no security guards and one slip of a girl on the till, customers told the girl, but what could she do? I'm on the side of justice, I wouldn't want my girl tackling such people and risk abuse. If one of mine broke the law he or she would be in hot water from me.

His race, surely he's British.

kircubbin2000

As usual no mention of a father here.

Horrible comment. Speaks volumes about the poster.

Galaxy

I wasnt having a go Houseplantqueen , just important to remember that its a child being restrained by adults.

I agree Galaxy, can you imagine the furore if it had been an elderly man dithering around expensive razor blades (which are the most shoplifted item in shops such as Superdrug, I believe)

I wasnt having a go Houseplantqueen , just important to remember that its a child being restrained by adults.

I agree too.
I think sitting on a suspect is a real dangerous thing to do as well.

Hog tying someone after wrestling them to the floor is a huge over-reaction to a suspected theft of shampoo. The fact that the boy was 15 makes it worse, and holding him without notifying his mother worse again

I agree Doodledog.

IMO, assuming we have the full story (by which I mean that the boy was not armed and did not pose a credible threat to the security guard) the guard should be charged with assault. The court should decide whether the reason for the assault was racially motivated and if so there should be an additional sentence for that.

Hog tying someone after wrestling them to the floor is a huge over-reaction to a suspected theft of shampoo. The fact that the boy was 15 makes it worse, and holding him without notifying his mother worse again.

I wash his clothes 🙈

My youngest CHILD is 15 🧒 not a young man, he’s a child. He goes to school and I was his clothes and his Dad makes his lunch
He’d be traumatised if wrestled to the floor by a strong man and handcuffed whilst out shopping

Galaxy

It's not a young man either, hes a child.

Agreed, my mistake

It's a frequent thing, being followed while Black in shops.

The article in The Times detailed that the boy and his friend entered a shop to buy shampoo. The boy was aware that 2 security guards were immediately following them as they moved through the shop and stood watching as they looked at shampoos. He made a flippant remark about being followed and watched (which embarrassed "clever" 15 year olds will do, wont they) . The 2 security guards jumped on him as a result of this, pinned him to the floor and used plastic wrist ties to tie his wrists behind his back. His friend tried to pull the security guards off him. Police were called and they were both arrested. Police have suggested that a shop keeper was assaulted, which is strongly denied. Police refused to speak to the 15 year olds mother, she could not establish where he was for some considerable length of time. He was kept in a cell for several hours and eventually interviewed with a responsible adult.
I cant post the link because The Times is subscription

It's not a young man either, hes a child.

I'd like to see ALL available video , including the store's, before expressing an opinion on this. Not sure that a 15 second video can tell the whole story. Witness statements are also needed. Not enough to go on at the moment.

kircubbin2000

As usual no mention of a father here.

And your point is?

Yes, that’s what I was getting at. It’s worse if there is also a racial element, but it’s bad regardless.

Even if we remove the potential race issue here, the fact is that a young man was wrestled to the ground, in a shop, by non Police personnel. I am very uncomfortable about that.

I think that according to the law he was assaulted. I hate the idea of thugs being licensed to attack members of the public (or fine them, for that matter). It is the thin end of a worrying wedge.

There is absolutely no justification for people of one colour being over-represented in stats on arrest, assault or anything else at the hands of actual authorities, never mind at the hands of privately hired security guards.

Also - it is the role of parents to advocate for their children. If he were mine, I would stick up for him as best I could, even if I had a go at him when we got home. It’s what parents do. If we don’t think the best of our children who will?

How do you feel about Black men dying in police custody Allsorts? Or how would you feel about about your grandson being pinned to the ground and handcuffed by someone with no legal authority to do so?

The boy hadn't left the shop. Even if he had intent to do so, it isn't shop lifting until they have left the premises. Therefore, according to the law, he wasn't stealing.

I’m fed up with people throwing racism at everything. If they are doing wrong, they need apprehending, you’re not talking about little children, where I live students descent like locusts and shop lift, even take the beauty samplers and testers. Parents stick up for their children regardless of the facts.

JaneJudge

This may surprise some of you but ^The boy's mother Kirsty Buchanan was once political editor at the Sunday Express and is a former adviser to Theresa May and Liz Truss. She has now called for a probe into the use of private security guards^

Interesting Jane, now how does the work with those of you who think this is all a storm in a leftist Guardian teacup? Like to have a rethink about your frankly racist comments?

kircubbin2000

As usual no mention of a father here.

and?