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Harry attending coronation alone.

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NotTooOld Wed 12-Apr-23 16:21:58

Is this the best outcome?

GagaJo Sat 15-Apr-23 21:42:30

Glorianny

It is funny isn't it. The most glamorous and the most humane members of the RF are consistently cast as the evil fairy. It's almost as if the very masculine firm can't tolerate such people. (And yes I know the last monarch was a woman, but one who very much subjugated her female side to fulfil the male idea of a monarch).
I can see why Harry thinks there are parallels between his mother and Meghan. But I think she's made of stronger stuff.

She's done what Diana longed to do. Get away from England. A quote from Earl Spencer's eulogy, 'She talked endlessly of getting away from England, mainly because of the treatment that she received at the hands of the newspapers.'

I'm sure Diana would approve.

Mollygo Sat 15-Apr-23 22:13:01

Or, as the Americans said, “she didn’t get the prestige she expected so she came back home”

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 23:02:31

I don't criticise them at all for escaping to America

But I do think they should have behaved with more dignity 🤐🤐

Words have weight, something once said cannot be unsaid.

GagaJo Sun 16-Apr-23 00:04:37

Seems to me that to the obsessed, H&M are Schrödinger's royals. They come, they're desperate for the attention / media coverage / connections. If they don't come, it's the most offensive snub.

IMO, Meghan will only return to the UK for Charles funeral. She's done with this country.

Anniebach Sun 16-Apr-23 07:28:47

And this country's done with her.

Calendargirl Sun 16-Apr-23 07:48:07

Not sure why they bothered to divorce

(This relating to Andrew and Fergie).

Well, the toe sucking incident, appearing splashed across the tabloids on the Royal breakfast table, didn’t exactly endear her to her in-laws.

Sometimes think Fergie and Meghan both approached their marriages not having thought through what it all entailed. It seemed that life as a Navy wife was a big factor in the breakup of the York’s marriage, Andrew always being away at sea. But Fergie knew this when they wed, he didn’t suddenly decide to become a sailor. The same as Harry should have been much more open to his wife about life as a ‘working’ Royal.

Hindsight being a wonderful thing.

I do think times have moved on in the nearly 40 years since the Yorks married, and if it were nowadays, Sarah would have received more support from the Palace, not have felt so isolated in her husband’s absences, had more support from family and friends.

I also think it’s interesting that Diana, Sarah, Meghan, all came from troubled family backgrounds, which probably didn’t help. Catherine from a (what appears) a much more stable, grounded family, seems to have adjusted to Royal life so much better.

Hopefully, she and William are just happier with each other.

Iam64 Sun 16-Apr-23 07:53:20

Diana, Sarah, Meghan all came from troubled family backgrounds. As did the men they married

Galaxy Sun 16-Apr-23 07:54:22

You beat me too it Iam64.

Galaxy Sun 16-Apr-23 07:54:59

To even. I havent been up longgrin

Calendargirl Sun 16-Apr-23 08:01:15

Yes, I agree, William also came from a troubled family background, the same one as Harry.

So why does his marriage appear happier, more grounded, more settled?

Perhaps the partner he chose, and her approach to her marriage and her future life?

And yes, her background, from a family who are obviously still very important in her new life.

Anniebach Sun 16-Apr-23 08:47:05

The mothers of Diana, Sarah, Megan, left them with their fathers.

merlotgran Sun 16-Apr-23 08:51:34

Anniebach

The mothers of Diana, Sarah, Megan, left them with their fathers.

Good point, Annie. Those who have married into the RF from a secure background have made a much better fist of it.

merlotgran Sun 16-Apr-23 08:54:24

Sorry, Iam. I didn’t spot your post.

maddyone Sun 16-Apr-23 09:32:44

Iam64

*Diana, Sarah, Meghan all came from troubled family backgrounds*. As did the men they married

Yes, the women all came from troubled family backgrounds, as did Harry. But Charles and Andrew? Their background is certainly not what most, if not all of us, would recognise as normal (whatever normal is) but the Queen and Prince Philip were happily married for over seventy years. So not troubled, but certainly different, but probably not really that different from any other royal families at that time. Everything needs to be seen in the right context and with the right time frame in mind.

Galaxy Sun 16-Apr-23 09:51:46

That doesnt mean it wouldnt have an impact on children though whatever the time frame. To be fair Andrew's children should be unable to function which doesnt seem the case.

Jaberwok Sun 16-Apr-23 09:53:11

The Queen and Prince Philip certainly had their ups and downs which perhaps today would = a permanent down. The Profumo affair being the most serious. I remember around that time my mother remarking that the Queen looked very unhappy . Luckily, no social media to tear into them, and with the birth of Prince Andrew, things appeared to settle down and yes the marriage seemed happy enough.

Calendargirl Sun 16-Apr-23 09:57:35

Galaxy

That doesnt mean it wouldnt have an impact on children though whatever the time frame. To be fair Andrew's children should be unable to function which doesnt seem the case.

Despite all their shortcomings, the toe sucking, Jeffrey Epstein saga, dodgy dealings et al, Sarah and Andrew seem to have made their style of co-parenting work, they have always seemed a team regarding bringing up their daughters, and you have never heard either of them bad mouthing the other.

Their two daughters seemed to have grown up fairly unscathed by it all.

Glorianny Sun 16-Apr-23 10:00:41

Gosh does no one remember the rumours about Philip around about the time of the Duchess of Argyle scandal? And numerous other hints about his infidelity? Strangely enough the same things are being said about William. So perhaps those marriages have much in common. The wives were prepared both to put up and shut up. And the husbands managed their peccadilloes quietly.

pascal30 Sun 16-Apr-23 10:15:08

Princess Anne dated Parker-Bowles at the same time as Camilla but she was genius at keeping her private life hidden and living life on her own terms.. all the women could have learnt alot from her. Nobody ever questioned Anne's integrity.. no scandals with her..

Jaberwok Sun 16-Apr-23 10:41:19

I think there has only been one, unsubstantiated rumour concerning Prince William, and that was years ago. As far as I can see, he and Catherine look extremely happy and supportive of each other and particularly in the up bringing of their children. Lets face it, a lot of marriages go through a rough patch or even two and settle down happily, the RF are no different to anyone else in that respect.

Glorianny Sun 16-Apr-23 11:32:16

Anniebach

The mothers of Diana, Sarah, Megan, left them with their fathers.

They didn't actually.
Diana's father took her mother to court to get custody.
Meghan lived with her mother until she was 9, then with her father.
Sarah's parents didn't divorce until she was 15

Anniebach Sun 16-Apr-23 11:38:52

Good grief, Harry is in danger. No rumour , it’s in his book ,
Megan insisted on having a photograph of Diana by her bed when she was in Labour, put a box containing Diana’s hair next to them when trying to conceive .

No I haven’t read the book but do listen to ‘The Vintage Road Show’ on uTube.

eazybee Sun 16-Apr-23 12:05:37

Shock horror.
I didn't think Meghan was that daft.

Glorianny Sun 16-Apr-23 12:32:30

Meghan isn't daft. You can't compete with a dead mother, so best show you want her on your side.

Anniebach Sun 16-Apr-23 12:32:32

It’s in the book