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Harry attending coronation alone.

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NotTooOld Wed 12-Apr-23 16:21:58

Is this the best outcome?

Anniebach Sat 15-Apr-23 16:11:20

Thank you Callistemon yes laughable .

Callistemon21 Sat 15-Apr-23 16:04:01

Anniebach

Some really believe the day of the coronation was chosen to make things difficult for the Sussex couple,

Unbelievable, isn't it!
In fact, laughable.

The Coronation
Organisation involves ministers, the Royal Household, the Church of England and the Commonwealth Realms. A Privy Council “Coronation Committee” is usually formed to oversee the planning, and its Executive Committee is chaired by the Earl Marshal. This can take several months

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 16:02:09

On my part no, just forwarding it as a possibility

All sorts of shenanigans go on behind the scenes sometimes, it's not an impossibility

Anniebach Sat 15-Apr-23 15:57:11

Some really believe the day of the coronation was chosen to make things difficult for the Sussex couple,

NanKate Sat 15-Apr-23 15:52:02

I agree with you Sparklefizz.

Harry 👎 Meghan 👎👎

It’s what my mum would have called ‘washing your dirty clothes in public’.

Sparklefizz Sat 15-Apr-23 15:40:59

GNetters seem to have forgotten how very much welcomed Meghan was in the UK when she first arrived on the scene. Crowds waiting to see her wherever she went. All those cheering crowds at her wedding, which she later said was a non-wedding and "just for the people".

I thought she was great at first, and Harry was my favourite, but out of their own mouths and with their own actions they have brought unpopularity upon themselves.

If I had said terrible things about my family and my inlaws, some/many of which were not true, and I had publicised those things all over the world, then I would be ashamed to show my face on a massive public occasion.

Harry has behaved as if he's doing everyone a favour by accepting his father's invitation to the Coronation, but he is also, of course, keeping up his currency for Netflix and any further books. How he can imagine he can breach his family's privacy over so many issues as he has done, and expect to be trusted and welcomed, I really don't know.

I certainly don't trust either of them and they are nothing to do with me, but when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

When Archie and Lili call his own parenting into question in future years, and ask why they don't know their relatives, perhaps he will have some understanding of how one can only be a "good enough" parent because there's no such thing as perfection.

Oreo Sat 15-Apr-23 15:21:15

I would go with Harry to support him and also take the children, then do my damn best to be pleasant to all his relatives in a bid to build bridges.I would steel myself to ignore any booing from the crowds.
Meghan won’t do any of those things.

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 15:20:42

Could it have been booked that day to try to manipulate the situation so they wouldn't come?

Although the press would have a field day whether they came or not

If a tree fell in the forest and there was no one around to hear it the Daily Mail would have a 3 page spread about how it's M&H fault

Foxygloves Sat 15-Apr-23 15:18:27

Most of us didn't have our Dads at our birthday parties unless they happened at the weekend -not necessarily the actual day - as Dads went to work - remember?
As for Grandparents, they might have been lucky enough to live close by, but not necessarily, mine were in another country!
As for who to leave Archie and Lillibet with, of course they all have Nannies. (And I don't mean grans)
No, its a deliberate snub statement by Meghan and while probably the right one, says clearly that she is NOT prepared to extend an olive branch or accept it.
How hypocritical those images of her future FIL leading her down the aisle seem now. It was never going to be Thomas Markle- this was a one woman show from start to finish.

Cynical, moi?

Dickens Sat 15-Apr-23 15:13:24

I don't know why she's not going to attend. There are no facts to the issue. There's probabilities, there's speculation.

My speculation - for what it's worth, and it's not worth any more or less than anyone else's is this.

Many here dislike the woman, some intensely - some, like Jeremy Clarkson, have made it quite clear that they hate her.

She knows this, and so does Harry.

The media are obsessed with reporting every detail, no matter how irrelevant, of her life when they find such to report.

She also knows this as does Harry.

If she comes, the media will have a frenzy of speculation, column inches by all the usual contributors - she will be watched and every move, smile, non-smile, gesture, will be interpreted in some way by 'experts'. Among all the other photo's from the event, there will be lots focusing on her - and then the tabloid readership will accuse her of hogging the limelight.

If she doesn't come she will - as she was in the Independent recently - be accused of snubbing the King.

So either way, she's not going to endear herself regardless of what she chooses to do. She's already damned.

What would you do? Under the circumstances, knowing in advance that I was already 'damned'... I'd stay home and celebrate the child's birthday. She's got nothing to lose.

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 15:04:36

He will be fine as long ashe is loved but, idk, I wouldn't want to miss agrandchilds birthday and I wouldn't want to overlay it with my special days if I could avoid it

I know I'm a big gentle parenting softie lol

I really like kids and they always come first for me

Anniebach Sat 15-Apr-23 14:58:45

He will be damaged if he doesn’t have birthday celebrations but no problem that he doesn’t know grandfathers, uncles, aunts, cousins , no knowledge of his extended family.

Galaxy Sat 15-Apr-23 14:51:10

Smileless, no party but I might be tempted to take him for the afternoon tea at the local doggy diner. They do good cakes for humans too.

Oreo Sat 15-Apr-23 14:49:25

Jaberwok

If it were me, I would try and marry up the two occasions as the Sussex 's did with Lilly. Go to the Coronation in the morning, leaving the children with?? Then reappear after the service and spend the rest of the day with the birthday boy. Perhaps a party planned for another day with small friends after they get home. You can't leave a birthday unmarked, on the other hand at that age you can juggle it a bit.

Good idea, if they wanted that, but Meghan won’t show her face here.

Oreo Sat 15-Apr-23 14:47:49

Calendargirl

How many of us can remember our 4th birthdays?

And can our children, or our GC, if they are older, remember their 4th birthdays?

Course not.

In years to come, won’t make a scrap of difference to Archie whether his dad was there or not.

I can remember mine!
Mum made a huge cake with pink candles on and all my relatives came as well as some little friends in my street.We had green jelly which I’d never seen before and played games and sang songs, marvellous!
It was my first real birthday party😃

Jaberwok Sat 15-Apr-23 14:40:40

If it were me, I would try and marry up the two occasions as the Sussex 's did with Lilly. Go to the Coronation in the morning, leaving the children with?? Then reappear after the service and spend the rest of the day with the birthday boy. Perhaps a party planned for another day with small friends after they get home. You can't leave a birthday unmarked, on the other hand at that age you can juggle it a bit.

3nanny6 Sat 15-Apr-23 14:34:03

Of course Archie will remember his birthday when children are that young it is all party time and fun. With my children the
birthday party began with the first birthday, just close family and few friends. I was so proud to see the first year birthday with the one candle on the cake. Always make the most of the birthdays once they get to fifteen they become less and less interested only wanting the expensive presents.

honeyrose Sat 15-Apr-23 14:21:29

I can’t help thinking why choose Archie’s birthday for Coronation Day? It’s probably best if Harry comes alone. I don’t feel comfortable with giving Meghan any more media attention, so it’s best if she stays away.

Norah Sat 15-Apr-23 13:47:56

Calendargirl

How many of us can remember our 4th birthdays?

And can our children, or our GC, if they are older, remember their 4th birthdays?

Course not.

In years to come, won’t make a scrap of difference to Archie whether his dad was there or not.

Agreed. The boy won't remember if his dad attended, just he was surrounded by mum, other family and friends - Fun.

Smileless2012 Sat 15-Apr-23 13:43:57

Are you having a party Galaxy?

FannyCornforth Sat 15-Apr-23 12:51:02

Galaxy

I am getting vaguely excited about the dogs first birthday grin

Ooh! That is exciting! 🐶 🎂

Galaxy Sat 15-Apr-23 12:40:48

I am getting vaguely excited about the dogs first birthday grin

volver3 Sat 15-Apr-23 12:40:20

Roseinbloom

And why not ....... a person who does not see why children should celebrate or enjoy themselves on their birthday ..... is a right old grinch

Aye that's me.

🙃

VioletSky Sat 15-Apr-23 12:28:23

I certainly wouldn't want to miss my child's birthday

Granted we have to work or go to school but I wouldn't want to miss the whole day

A 4 year old will be very aware it is their birthday

TerriBull Sat 15-Apr-23 12:26:01

I hope Archie enjoys his 4th birthday, my older one is also early May, beautiful weather, we had a party in the garden. A neighbour came with her 4 year old daughter and gave him a gun and holster (toy) I was kind of shocked even back then, it was very silver and cowboy real looking shock I wish Archie a similar memorable, outdoor sunshine birthday party, minus the gun!